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Jura said:

AFB, you made me laugh this early morning, it's dawn in Prague, 30 F ... so thanks!

Anyway, I tried to check the statement from that article "the United States would assume overall military command of their joint forces in the event of a full-scale conflict." and found this:

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Well, it does help to have a sense of humor, mine gets me in trouble at times, but our women can make us or break us, the old proverbs 31 may seem outdated, but a woman can make a house a "home". It is interesting how much alike we all are, and I am quite certain that the gentlemen of the Sino Defense Forum are working very diligently to make the world a safer place for our families, there are some men of integrity here..

Now, the US partners with our allies for the common good of all, and we are committed to our partners, I can't imagine any of our partners "carte blanc" handing over control of their military, nor can I imagine us doing that either????

Air Force Brat said:

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Now, the US partners with our allies for the common good of all, and we are committed to our partners, I can't imagine any of our partners "carte blanc" handing over control of their military, nor can I imagine us doing that either????

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yeah and I can't imagine what would happen if the US Forces Korea ordered retreat from Seoul (about 20 miles from the border) I mean would the ROK Army do it??

Jura said:

yeah and I can't imagine what would happen if the US Forces Korea ordered retreat from Seoul (about 20 miles from the border) I mean would the ROK Army do it??

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Let history be your guide.

It happened before...during the Korean War, twice.

Once in June 1950 when North Korean forces took the city as they rapidly advanced south, and then again in January 1951 after UN forces successfully threw back North Korean forces, encircled them through the invasion at Inchon, and then invaded and took North Korea, only to be repelled by the Chinese counter attack in October 1950, who then proceeded south and took Seoul again in January 1951.

UN forces then took Seoul back in March 1951 and ultiamtely pushed north of the 38th parallel and stopped, holding that line for two years of bitter, stalemate fighting until the armistice in 1953.

The US would not order a general withdrawal from Seoul unless it was felt that they could not hold the city and would risk encirclement and annihilation if they did not. This exactly what Korean, US and UN forces faced, first in June 1950, and then later in January 1951. So they withdrew, but survived to fight another day and ultimately take the capitol back.

Jeff Head said:

Let history be your guide.

It happened before...during the Korean War, twice.

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sure, I've read the book by Catchpole (many years ago I also read an interesting book on the fighter jets and their pilots, how the game was changing, I mean straight wings then swept wings then new versions of the Sabre, but I forgot the details including its title so now I looked it up and I believe it was the Czech translation of "Korean War Aces" by Robert F. Dorr, Jon Lake and Warren Thompson)

my point was it would easier for foreign allies to leave the capital ("just coordinates") than for locals as most of them would have in there relatives or at least somebody they know, but C'est la guerre

Jura said:

my point was it would easier for foreign allies to leave the capital ("just coordinates") than for locals as most of them would have in there relatives or at least somebody they know, but C'est la guerre

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That is why the old saying is true, "war is hell."

However, professional military personnel, who are fighting with their allies, would never find it easy, or easier to order such a withdrawal. They all know what is at stake for themselves and their friends and allies.

As I said earlier, the US would not order a general withdrawal from Seoul unless it was felt that they could not hold the city and would risk encirclement and annihilation if they did not. This is exactly what Korean war personnel , first in June 1950, and then later in January 1951 did. So they withdrew, but survived to fight another day and ultimately take Seoul back.

Those would be horrific desicions for anyone making them...but in the circumstamnces, the right decision.

I just read a very interesting paper on the KDX program. It was published in the newest issue of a Polish naval journal and the author even included the latest news about additional three KDX-III to be built (and also rumors, taken from related to the BMD options). Only now I realized it had to be difficult to integrate a whole bunch of the US/Western-Europe/Korean weaponry and communications ... The paper says the KDX-III ships can work in the Maritime Air Support Operation Center role ... I also realized they could mount an attack FROM THE KOREAN VLS against land (using "Guardian of the Northern Sky" missile), surface (using "Starfish" missile) and submerged (using "Red Shark" ASROC carrying "Blue Shark" torp) targets. Please tell me if I got anything wrong, thanks!

UN has just produced the most details and devastated report about North Korean crimes against humanity

It's now the job of the international criminal court to bring the leaders of the North to justice and face crimes against humanity

The North Korean leaders should be brought to justice for crimes for over 60 years

These institutions were set up after WWII so never again crimes against civilians could happen so now no one can say they didnt know

I would advise everyone to read the report it makes me sick that leaders like Kim and his family are still alive and leading a country of 20+ million people

They are holding everyone inside hostage the people deserve freedom from this sadistic government

ROK -- Indonesia alliance, or just business?

Has anyone seen the images of the reunion of the North and South Korean citizens at Diamond Mountain in North Korea?

Shows how sadistic the North is keeping family's apart and only allowing them a few hours together who haven't seem each other for 60 years

Why even do that? For heavens sake it's 2014 in which planet are the North Korean government living how can they get away with this, I am shocked beyond belief how a country like that can exist in today's world

asif iqbal said:

Has anyone seen the images of the reunion of the North and South Korean citizens at Diamond Mountain in North Korea?

Shows how sadistic the North is keeping family's apart and only allowing them a few hours together who haven't seem each other for 60 years

Why even do that? For heavens sake it's 2014 in which planet are the North Korean government living how can they get away with this, I am shocked beyond belief how a country like that can exist in today's world

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OT. The thing is that DPRK cannot exist in today's world. That's why they're so isolationist. The whole nation is based on the cult of the Kim-dynasty (I'm calling DPRK 大金王國, the Kingdom of Great Kim, nowadays) and its whole society would collapse if the truth about the Kims were ever to spread into all of its layers. Therefore contacts with the rest of the world must be minimised for the world of the past to continue inside North Korea.

Warmongering is also vital for the survival of DPRK. When there is a constant threat of war looming around the country the army first politics seems understandable in the eyes of the brainwashed population. Therefore the people will not grow dissatisfied with their spartan living conditions because they think that most of the resources of the country are devoted to the armed forces in order to fend off foreign imperialists and capitalists.

This is it for my OT. I hope that this explained some of the behaviour of the DPRK to you, Asif.