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ManilaBoy45

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Philippine Congress Approves Ambitious Defence Procurement Budget

By Michael Cohen
10/1/2012

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The Armed Forces of the Philippines' modernisation programme budget for 2013 approved by both houses of the Philippine Congress on 22 September includes funding for a wide-ranging list of items, including 50 new aircraft.

Philippine President Benigno Aquino described the procurement plan as "the largest and most comprehensive upgrade programme in the history of the AFP and a needed one for its largely mid-20th century Korean and Vietnam War-era systems".

Stressing that it would provide Manila with a "deterrent force with an effective but minimal defence capability", Aquino also cautioned that the procurements would be spread over a five-year period. "It won't come overnight," he said on the sidelines of the APEC Economic Leaders' Meeting in Vladivostok.

Among the major items to be procured are 12 KAI T/A-50 lead-in fighter trainer/light-attack aircraft, 6 Embraer EMB-314 Super Tucanos, 6 light lift transport aircraft, 25 transport and 12 attack helicopters, 4 search-and-rescue and 4 anti-submarine multirole naval helicopters, and 3 special-mission long-range helicopters.

The navy has funding to buy two Maestrale-class frigates from the Italian Navy and upgrade its 2 former US Coast Guard Hamilton-class cutters to bring them up to light frigate status.
 
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MwRYum

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Yes, the US learned this lesson on the Stark in the 1980s...and now has forgotten it again with the LCS. I know they hope the speed will help, as well as stealth and EW...but still, a war ship has to assume it is at some point going to take some hits. It has to be designed to do so and not burn to the waterline if it does.

Here's a video of it:

[video=youtube;pk-SIKhM78w]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk-SIKhM78w[/video]

You need to be at certain tonnage to make a warship designed to take hits - that means armor, damage control, redundant buoyancy - all eat into space and tonnage otherwise available for mission packages. KRI Klewang was designed as missile boat, that mean a lot of things.

But for a shipborne fire that consume it so quickly...that means there's problem with onboard fire extinguishers, if they've installed it at this point.

Anyway, update on their end:
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Short Circuit, Not Sabotage, Behind Indonesian Warship Fire
SP/Anastasia Winanti,SP/Nanda Aries & Markus Junianto Sihaloho | October 02, 2012

It was dubbed “one of the most innovative” warships ever, yet the Navy’s state-of-the-art KRI Klewang missile boat was destroyed by a fire seemingly sparked by the most mundane of factors: an electrical short circuit.

Admiral Agus Suhartono, the military chief of staff, played down speculation that the blaze that gutted the stealthy trimaran at the Banyuwangi Naval Base in East Java last Friday was an act of sabotage.

He said on Monday that it was a case of a “purely technical” problem with the electrical equipment on board the carbon-fiber boat that led to the short circuit and fire.

He added that the incident would serve as “valuable experience” for the producer, Banyuwangi-based Lundin Industry Invest, to ensure better build quality in its boats, including improving the integrity of the electrical installations to prevent fires.

The Rp 114 billion ($12 million) Klewang had just been delivered to the Navy’s Eastern Fleet on Aug. 31 and was docked at the naval base for maintenance when the fire broke out on Friday morning.

The boat was completely destroyed in the incident, while a maintenance worker and a Navy officer had to be hospitalized for smoke inhalation.

Lt. Col. Nadjib, the commander of the Banyuwangi base, said the boat had actually been scheduled to begin a month-long series of ocean trials later on Friday.

Nadjib and Lt. Col. Yayan Sugiana, the Eastern Fleet spokesman, both confirmed separately that the cause of the fire was an electrical short circuit, and that Lundin would be responsible for building a new boat for the Navy.

Lundin also issued a statement blaming a short circuit for the blaze.

Despite the official explanations, however, speculation remains that the fire might have been set deliberately in a sabotage attempt.

Mahfudz Siddiq, chairman of the House of Representatives Commission I, which oversees defense and foreign affairs, said on Monday that the timing of the incident was suspicious, given that the House was set to pass a bill on Tuesday on the domestic defense industry.

“The Klewang was one of our most sophisticated boat developments. Could this have been an attempt to tarnish the domestic defense industry? This is a suspicion that’s growing,” he said.

The Prosperous Justice Party (PKS) legislator also questioned the official finding, arguing that it was unlikely that such a technologically advanced piece of equipment could catch fire so easily.

“How likely is it that this boat could simply catch fire like a cheap boarding room? This is a sophisticated boat, and the scale of the fire was huge,” Mahfudz said.

At its launch at the end of August, Lundin hailed the Klewang as “one of the most innovative warships in the world.”

It said the boat “represents a significant step forward in the use of advanced warship building technologies in countries outside of Europe and the United States.”

It added that the use of carbon-fiber foam sandwich composites for all structural elements in the vessel “is unprecedented outside of Scandinavia and is representative of the current state of the art in both maritime composites structural engineering and production technology.”

According to the manufacturers, the boat features “stealth design with low detection signatures,” and can carry concealed missiles and guns as well as up to 29 soldiers and crew.
 

no_name

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I think in general the further you are operating away from the safety of your shore based supports, the larger and more protective and damage tolerant your ship will have to be.

Therefore while it is reasonable to have missile boats and corvettes and LCS and what not operating close to your own shore, designing an LCS to operate close to the shore of others AND away from your own is a bit beyond me.
 

MwRYum

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Therefore while it is reasonable to have missile boats and corvettes and LCS and what not operating close to your own shore, designing an LCS to operate close to the shore of others AND away from your own is a bit beyond me.

It's the USN you're talking about here, thus their LCS is used in scenarios where shore based OpFor is either negligible, and/or other offensive assets are available at moment's notice to neutralize such threat if need be.

Still, back to current topic...the total lost of KRI Klewang will certainly set the programme back badly, there will certainly be re-design to include enhancement in overall fire resistance.
 

ManilaBoy45

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Philippines Won’t Back Down in Disputed Sea, Says Official

Tarra Quismundo
Philippine Daily Inquirer
Publication Date : 04-10-2012

Even as it continues to nurture longstanding ties with China, the Philippines will not back down from asserting its claims in the disputed West Philippine Sea (South China Sea) using international law and without resorting to force.

At a high-level gathering of United States and Philippine officials in Washington DC recently, Foreign Secretary Albert del Rosario said the West Philippine Sea is “a core national interest of the Philippines”, and the country would pursue its claims there within a framework of diplomacy, international law and cooperation.

And while China is one of the country’s biggest trading partners, the Philippines will push for its claims in the resource-rich territories within the West Philippine Sea, including part of the Spratlys, the Panatag Shoal and the Recto Bank.


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ManilaBoy45

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The Philipino armed force is the most obselete and weakest one in the ASEAN countries,there's no one of.And it seemed the Philipino armed force had a special interst in collecting the old and museum class junk weapons all over the world.

I believe Brunei, Cambodia, Laos and Myanmar which are all ASEAN nations have smaller and weaker armed forces ... :p
 
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joshuatree

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I believe Brunei, Cambodia, Laos and Myanmar which are all ASEAN nations have smaller and weaker armed forces ... :p

That's not true with Brunei. Her navy has new Darsussalam OPVs. They are armed with Exocets and 57mm Bofors. Don't think the PI navy can match that.
 

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The USS George Washington and the USS John C. Stennis aircraft carrier strike groups (CSGs), a flotilla of five ships and more than 10,000 Navy personnel are now operating in the conflict ridden South China Sea area. The news was announced by the Navy a few days ago, but is now making the rounds in Asian media outlets, and generating as much speculation as it is concern.

The Washington will be operating in the East China Sea near the disputed Diaoyutai islands controlled by Japan, but claimed by both Taiwan and China.

The Stennis will be operating south of the Diaoyutai's in the South China Sea, where territorial disputes between China and its regional neighbors have been making headlines for months. There is speculation that the carrier assignments could just be coincidence, and while that's possible it's just as likely that the U.S. is doing it's part to fulfill three separate treaty obligations to allies in the region.

Ralph Jennings at The Christian Science Monitor points out that the U.S. is "obligated by security pacts or acts of Congress to help defend Japan, Taiwan, and the Philippines – all located off the east coast of rising military power and US cold-war rival China."
 

ManilaBoy45

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Southeast Asia Splashes Out on Defence, Mostly Maritime

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By John O'Callaghan | Reuters – 38 minutes ago

Territorial disputes in the South China Sea, fuelled by the promise of rich oil and gas deposits, have prompted Vietnam, Malaysia, the Philippines and Brunei to try to offset China's growing naval power.

Economic development is pushing them to spend money on defence to protect their investments, sea lanes and exclusive economic zones," said James Hardy, Asia Pacific editor of IHS Jane's Defence Weekly. "The biggest trend is in coastal and maritime surveillance and patrol."
 
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