Sino-Myanmar Border Conflicts

Bltizo said:

I mean... you're not wrong. China simply doesn't have the resources to monitor all its borders with AEW&C, and the whole point of special forces is to exploit those gaps. Having a massive land border with many differing countries across cluttered terrain doesn't help.

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No country could defend everything at the same time and with same strength. But the purpose of military strategy is to discern potential threats and to act accordingly. It is like a man in combat moving its shields to parry blows of the opponent. Shield is not everywhere at the same time, but fighter skilled with shield could make it appear it is .

In this case, trouble in Myanmar started days ago. PLAAF should have anticipated potential incidents, and quietly move some of its assets from other sectors . And when the trouble is over just move them back to their original bases . Now they are doing just that but it is so too late for people killed. And more importantly, it shows potential opponents (real opponents, not Myanmar ) that PLAAF structure is rigid and slow to adapt. That may embolden them to attempt things they would not do if they feared from PLAAF swift response .

Blitzo, I understand that you're trying to be circumspect in your analysis, but some of the crack theories don't really deserve consideration, and mentioning them only adds to the confusion of an already murky situation. For example, Genma county is a party of Lincang city, saying that the bombing occurred in Genma county and not Lincang city is like saying the bombing occured in Yunnan and not China. Also, if it was indeed a bomb dropped by a plane, I think we can pretty safely assume that it's by the Burmese military, since nobody else in the area has the resources and the need to be dropping bombs.

If it's indeed a bomb dropped 1km across the border into Lincang, you don't even necessarily have to cross the border to do that. If the Burmese military operates close enough to the border for enough time, such accidental incursions will inevitably happen, and that's really the root of the problem here: if there's a conflagration across the border, it WILL spill over to the other side in due time. The drug-trafficking has spilled across the border for decades now, and probably has killed many more Chinese citizens than Burmese bombs can ever do. That's without even mentioning the corruption, gang-related killings, and general decrepitude the drug trade brings to Yunnan and beyond. There's a reason why the Chinese government is personally guiding the Wa State Army's (the rebel group with whom the CCP works the most closely with) economy away from the drug trade. Ensuring peace and stability across the border is the ONLY way to prevent all forms of vices from entering Yunnan from Myanmar in the long run. Amassing troops, SAMs, and air-patrols, etc. are only a show to appease the nationalist backlash, which is probably appropriate for now, in the short-term, but none of it will make a real difference that's proportionate to the cost in the long run. To think that it would is akin to thinking that the appropriate response to the Mexican cartels' activities across the border can be taken care of by militarizing the U.S.-Mexico border.

t2contra said:

Countries, especially those on friendly terms, do not go about launching retaliatory strikes when attacked by another along the border region when the target of the bombing was against rebels. They frown and voice displeasure, because it is not an international conflict, but a civil war that spills over onto the neighboring country.

I think China's military operation would be to chase the intruders away or lob a few rounds only if the artillery barrage last too long and causes too much damage.

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antiterror13 said:

I am afraid she is just like another leaders, so vocal and so good and promising before elected into power then quiet and do nothing and corrupt (not saying she is corrupt)

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From what I'm reading in Hillary's Hard Decisions, she got quite a positive impression and admiration of her. In there they mentioned that after Burma's first military leader went democratic mode and also released her back into permitted to participating in government, she's been working delicately with the president and both the president and her had been doing a stable yet cautious job towards modernization and reform. I haven't been following up on Bumra's situation last year, so not sure how things are, but it's more than safe enough to say that military-themed security situations rests in the hands of the junta, and so how Burma will respond will essentially comes from junta's relationship with CCP.

No mention of this bombing that killed Chinese civillians by my local news. Even the Myanmar ferry capsize got coverage. Imagine that. If it was other way round, the whole western press immediately would be up in arms attacking china as a big bully. Can't say I'm too surprised

There are currently two threads discussing the bombing along the Myanmar China border, can the moderators please combine the threads?

There are currently two threads discussing the bombing along the Myanmar China border, can the moderators please combine the threads?

more details are coming out. according to this article, the closest village to the bombing site is about 1km from the border.


the cane field may be even closer to the border. i've read unsourced forum post that it is as close as 100m from the border.

airsuperiority said:

From what I'm reading in Hillary's Hard Decisions, she got quite a positive impression and admiration of her. In there they mentioned that after Burma's first military leader went democratic mode and also released her back into permitted to participating in government, she's been working delicately with the president and both the president and her had been doing a stable yet cautious job towards modernization and reform. I haven't been following up on Bumra's situation last year, so not sure how things are, but it's more than safe enough to say that military-themed security situations rests in the hands of the junta, and so how Burma will respond will essentially comes from junta's relationship with CCP.

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Aun San Suu Kyi hasn't done anything to resolve disputes between ethnicity at all ever since she came into politician. Basically she's just a tool for the "human rights" advocates. If she is so "inspirational" and "loved by many" how come she doesn't promote or work on peace and stability with the Kokang rebels and her government (since she is a part of it now)?

Her aspirations are molded by her father, who was a diehard nationalist to the core. Kokang, like Rohingha, are not officially sanctioned races like Kachin. She would be Burmese public enemy number one if she accords the same standard to those people.