bladerunner
Banned Idiot
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Should China respect sanctions on Iran?
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Given that the PRC is now on-track to overtake the US economy in real exchange rate terms by about 2025, I would say that the your dream is highly unlikely.
It also makes sense to "welcome that which cannot be avoided" and make the transfer of Global Economic Leadership as un-acrimonious as possible. This especially makes sense if you are in the antipodes and increasingly dependant on the rising star for your livelihood and economic security.
bladerunner
Banned Idiot
Apparently, nuclear proliferation will continue, since it seems to enjoy the full support of some politicians. Some officials in China got their way and protected North Korea in her development of nuclear arms. Now these elements have persuaded China to protect Iran in her nuclear weapon aspirations.
If these Silver Tongues who have the ear of the Chinese leadership allow "special" nations their own nuclear inventories, how long will it be before South Korea, Japan, the province of Taiwan, Saudi Arabia, etc.... to develop their own nuclear stockpiles? When the US and European guarantees of non-proliferation has been thrown out the window, why should these nations expect guarantees of Western military protection? They won't, that's the answer.
So again, exactly how is China's security enhanced by having every Tom, Dick, and Harry of a nation armed to the teeth with nukes on every front? Japan can nuke up in under 5 years. So, will the security council put sanctions on Japan if she does so? After all the trouble with Iran, I doubt that China will get any co-operation for a UN Security council vote on that one.
If some have convinced the Chinese leadership that protecting the nuclear arming of the developed world's most hated enemies is a good idea, then those Fork Tongued shall have no problem explaining to the leadership why suddenly China's most hated enemies have suddenly initiated their own nuclear programs in the very near future.
If these Silver Tongues who have the ear of the Chinese leadership allow "special" nations their own nuclear inventories, how long will it be before South Korea, Japan, the province of Taiwan, Saudi Arabia, etc.... to develop their own nuclear stockpiles? When the US and European guarantees of non-proliferation has been thrown out the window, why should these nations expect guarantees of Western military protection? They won't, that's the answer.
So again, exactly how is China's security enhanced by having every Tom, Dick, and Harry of a nation armed to the teeth with nukes on every front? Japan can nuke up in under 5 years. So, will the security council put sanctions on Japan if she does so? After all the trouble with Iran, I doubt that China will get any co-operation for a UN Security council vote on that one.
If some have convinced the Chinese leadership that protecting the nuclear arming of the developed world's most hated enemies is a good idea, then those Fork Tongued shall have no problem explaining to the leadership why suddenly China's most hated enemies have suddenly initiated their own nuclear programs in the very near future.
plawolf
Lieutenant General
plawolf
Lieutenant General
What are you rambling on about? I don't set Chinese foreign policy you fool. :rofl:
Trashing the concept of nuclear non-proliferation destroys China's Strategic Defense completely. How can anyone that cares about all that China has achieved risk everything? Another Great Leap Forward, yet another Cultural Revolution that does nothing but tear down everything that was painfully built. But let's blame another culture for it, let's blame an entire race. It always comes down to that, does it?
Can anyone else defend the scrapping of nuclear non-proliferation without having to resort to race baiting? If this is going to be the state of affairs in this thread then the moderators should close it at once. Obviously nothing constructive is happening when the race card is getting thrown around.
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plawolf
Lieutenant General
Your replies get more nonsensical with every post. 
Now how many times have I got to repeat this? China cannot, and will not support Iranian attempts to develop a nuclear weapon.
But if Iran so happens to develop a nuclear weapon, China would find itself in an unique position to try and mediate a mutual disarmament deal between Iran and Israel which will not only benefit the region but also set an example for the rest of the world of how nuclear disarmament could actually be achieved.
Now China may be able to help increase the chances of Iran successfully developing a nuclear weapon by opposing sanctions. But who's to say if that is because of short sighted greed or long reaching design? Certainly not with any degree of certainty to warrant any attempts to 'destroy China's strategic defense' (not that such a thing could be as easily achieved as you seem to fantasize to begin with).
Perhaps you would care to rephrase that so that those of us not foaming at the mouth could also understand?
Now how many times have I got to repeat this? China cannot, and will not support Iranian attempts to develop a nuclear weapon.
But if Iran so happens to develop a nuclear weapon, China would find itself in an unique position to try and mediate a mutual disarmament deal between Iran and Israel which will not only benefit the region but also set an example for the rest of the world of how nuclear disarmament could actually be achieved.
Now China may be able to help increase the chances of Iran successfully developing a nuclear weapon by opposing sanctions. But who's to say if that is because of short sighted greed or long reaching design? Certainly not with any degree of certainty to warrant any attempts to 'destroy China's strategic defense' (not that such a thing could be as easily achieved as you seem to fantasize to begin with).
Perhaps you would care to rephrase that so that those of us not foaming at the mouth could also understand?
LostWraith
New Member
@plawolf: why do you believe that mutual disarmament between Iran and Israel has any chance of success, when even India and Pakistan are unable to disarm? In fact, why do you believe that any country in the world, would give up its nuclear weapons once it has acquired it?