Shenyang next gen combat aircraft thread
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What the... How many times have we already discussed about this topic in this forum since December 26, 2024?
The J-36 is a fighter (战斗机), which is why it has the "J" (歼) prefix. And there's one thing that can be certain - The J-36 is NOT, and I repeat NOT a (medium) bomber, despite supposedly having a centerline internal weapons bay that could be large enough to fit 2x large anti-ship missiles. The same reasoning (or shall I say, facts) applies with the J-XDS.
The P-8 Poseidon is capable of fielding Harpoons and LRASMs. Has anyone put the P-8 on a bomber hierarchy?
Both the F/A-18s and F-35s are capable of fielding JASSMs and LRASMs - Has anyone put the F/A-18s and F-35s on a bomber hierarchy?
The C-130J can be configured to drop the MOAB - Has anyone put the C-130 on a bomber hierarchy?
In fact, the best way to describe the J-36 and J-XDS would be manned multi-role combat aircrafts (MMRCA) - And that's it.
Oh yes, you're certainly smarter and correct than the Chief Designer of the J-20 Yang Wei.
战斗机 = Fighter.
Come on, man.
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You obviously don't understand the JayM aircraft classification, so I'll list it simply,
1. light bomber - JF-17
2. medium bomber - J-35, J-10
3. heavy bomber - J-11/16, J-20
4. ultra heavy bomber - H-6
6. naval bomber - J-15
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Jokes aside, if someone's starting point for calling something (xyz) is not the physical property of the thing or its intended role but some childlike notion, its not worth correcting. Even an uninformed person will have no trouble understanding aircraft delineations so correcting these baseless claims doesn't even serve the third-party observer who might be confused.
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lcloo
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Understanding the Chinese aircraft designation.
J = Fighter
H= Bomber
JH = Fighter Bomber
Y = Transport aircraft
Z = Helicopter
JL = Trainer
KJ = Aerial Warning aircraft
So, if a next gen aircraft has a designation of J36, then it is not a bomber. If it is designated as H36, then yes it is a bomber. Note that modern day fighters are mostly multi-role, they shoot, they strike and they bomb because they can.
A Y20 can drop a father or mother of all bombs or a SRBM, but it ain't no bomber.
J = Fighter
H= Bomber
JH = Fighter Bomber
Y = Transport aircraft
Z = Helicopter
JL = Trainer
KJ = Aerial Warning aircraft
So, if a next gen aircraft has a designation of J36, then it is not a bomber. If it is designated as H36, then yes it is a bomber. Note that modern day fighters are mostly multi-role, they shoot, they strike and they bomb because they can.
A Y20 can drop a father or mother of all bombs or a SRBM, but it ain't no bomber.
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And that still wouldn't make the J-36 and J-XDS into "medium bombers", which is what he's implying - Because anti-ship/land-attack role can be done by literally any warplanes with properly-rated weapons racks.
Classifying combat warplanes into their respective categories require deeper nuances and evidences than just shallow-level "oh, it can carry and launch missiles and bombs, so it must be a bomber".
And with the introduction of 6th-gen air combat systems - Trying to classify combat warplanes into specific, singular categories loses more and more actual meanings.
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wow i feel like i stirred up a lot of activity... at least you guys are seeing a new prospective and i feel like we are approaching some kind of progress collectively.... i also believe some of these accounts might be some kind of bot.
the jh designation fighter bomber is like a medium bomber i guess... wasnt j36 called the jh-36 by some initially... im in that camp... for some reason it seems some people take it personally when you call the j-36 a medium bomber.
as for the shengad i believe its a naval verson of the j-36 that is meant to kill ships and big buildings and not just other birds... im not concerned with the label... more interested in its purpose
the jh designation fighter bomber is like a medium bomber i guess... wasnt j36 called the jh-36 by some initially... im in that camp... for some reason it seems some people take it personally when you call the j-36 a medium bomber.
as for the shengad i believe its a naval verson of the j-36 that is meant to kill ships and big buildings and not just other birds... im not concerned with the label... more interested in its purpose
Self-awareness isn't your strong suit, is it?
As for your bomber fetish..... You should hang out over in the H20 thread.
Someone doesn't agree with me: You must be a bot!
You're not the center of the universe man, go read a book or something.