I agree with @SinoAmericanCW that both the Shenyang and Chengdu craft are supplements. If the Shenyang is meant to replace the J-35, the J-35 would get, what, a decade of relevance? It is far more likely that the J-36 and this are considerably more expensive than J-35 and J-20, especially with J-36's 3 engines. And there are still changes being made to the J-20.
Shenyang next gen combat aircraft thread
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Do you guys think this plane will also have a large enough weapons bay for anti-ship/anti-ground munitions missiles?
Otherwise would we need this plane, J-35 and J-15 on carriers when it eventually went into service? Would having just two plane types
(this and J-35) simplify things enough to make a difference? Perhaps the nuclear carriers would only have 5th gen and above strike planes?
Otherwise would we need this plane, J-35 and J-15 on carriers when it eventually went into service? Would having just two plane types
(this and J-35) simplify things enough to make a difference? Perhaps the nuclear carriers would only have 5th gen and above strike planes?
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J-20 & J-35 are newly introduced modern fighters in the early stages of their life cycle, the ones will be replaced by J-36 and SAC J-XD are J-10s J-11/15/16s.
It's a pipeline process where the newest platform replaces the oldest platform, by that you benefit the most from the retired platform and it will allow bigger timeframe for new platform development.
J-35/J-20 might be replaced by the fighters that succeeds the current program.
It's a pipeline process where the newest platform replaces the oldest platform, by that you benefit the most from the retired platform and it will allow bigger timeframe for new platform development.
J-35/J-20 might be replaced by the fighters that succeeds the current program.
Current 5th gens will be to 6th gen as current 4.5 gens are to 5th gens. 5th gens themselves likely to be replaced by UCAVS/CCAs.
so the Shengad is/will supposedly be powered by two WS-15 engines just like the J-20. and it also appears to be smaller than the J-36 and just slightly larger than a flanker.
just as how the F-35 is also supposed to be integrated with CCAs the J-20 will also probably be integrated with CCAs. therefore personaly I believe the Shengad is not supposed to compete with the J-36 rather it may be an effort from Shenyang to compete with the J-20.
just as how the F-35 is also supposed to be integrated with CCAs the J-20 will also probably be integrated with CCAs. therefore personaly I believe the Shengad is not supposed to compete with the J-36 rather it may be an effort from Shenyang to compete with the J-20.
Feel free to correct me, but how much more maneuver can fighter jets be with our human body limitation? So I am not sure if Shengad is going to be much more maneuverable over the previous gen
Do you think that a plane can reach that 9G limit in all parts of its flight envelope?
Just like the J-11B/J-11BG situation, the user (in this case PLA AF) will eventually decide how many they want to order, and what role they are going to be used. CAC/SAC won't know in advance. Cost is certainly a factor but cost contains many different kinds, not just production cost or purchase price. We simply don't know at this point.
If some equipment is no longer needed, PLA won't hesitate to abandon them well before retirement date (see. navy ship Type 056). That seems like a waste. But the option of keeping them will cost more on the battlefield.
I don't think most parts of a mission REQUIRES 9g limit.(sustain flight to destination A to B, , aerial refueling and etc..)
Is only when dogfighting requires high G which most advanced fighters can already do more than the human body can take. And any additional improvement to it will be minor in practice as most sraam have extremely high G limit that no human can beat.