Shenyang FC-31 / J-31 Fighter Demonstrator

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sndef888

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Iran is a no go. Iran and Saudis are fighting a proxy far right now in Yemen. Also, it would not be cool with Pakistan for China to sell something like FC-31 to Iran. At this point, they would not even sell J-10Cs to Iran. Russia will not be buying FC-31 when Su-57 has already started production builds.

I think these countries could be interested (assuming they don't get access to F-35) in some cases with ToT:
Pakistan
Saudi Arabia
UAE
Indonesia
Malaysia
Thailand
Algeria
Brazil
South Africa
Egypt
Qatar
Oman
Kuwait
Maybe China could play a game of blackmail. Tell the arab states that they'll sell J-35 to Iran if they don't buy it first.

I bet they'd just fork up the money considering how rich they are. Biggest issue is probably american influence
 

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Rumor from colleague take it with a huge chunk of salt a folding catapult on TEL has been developed, if true perhaps for J-31?
Surely if anything it would be for UAVs? Like those one's currently using rockets for launch and parachute for recovery. If replaced with catapult it may make their running cost cheaper?

What good is launching a large fixed wing aircraft if you don't have a place for them to land.
 

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Surely if anything it would be for UAVs? Like those one's currently using rockets for launch and parachute for recovery. If replaced with catapult it may make their running cost cheaper?

What good is launching a large fixed wing aircraft if you don't have a place for them to land.
Maybe they also built mobile arresting gear lol anyway UAV makes sense shared here to see if anyone heard something similar
 

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Who knows if we will hear something soon. If the Saudis/emiratis want to be able to stand up to Israel, then they will have to start buying Chinese weapons. Can't see F-35s getting sold to them without giant compromises on their national security issues.

As for Iran, I think that until they take more strategic actions to aid China, you don't sell them anything more advanced. For example, China has been reluctant to even sell J-10Cs to Iran.
 

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Who knows if we will hear something soon. If the Saudis/emiratis want to be able to stand up to Israel, then they will have to start buying Chinese weapons. Can't see F-35s getting sold to them without giant compromises on their national security issues.

As for Iran, I think that until they take more strategic actions to aid China, you don't sell them anything more advanced. For example, China has been reluctant to even sell J-10Cs to Iran.
Why would they want to 'stand up to' their increasingly not-so-secret ally, Israel? It's Iran they fear.
 

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Who knows if we will hear something soon. If the Saudis/emiratis want to be able to stand up to Israel, then they will have to start buying Chinese weapons. Can't see F-35s getting sold to them without giant compromises on their national security issues.

As for Iran, I think that until they take more strategic actions to aid China, you don't sell them anything more advanced. For example, China has been reluctant to even sell J-10Cs to Iran.

I just don't see Iran getting the FC-31.

1. Pakistan and Saudi are both Sunni countries with a long-standing relationship where part of the Pakistan military works for Saudi Arabia, and where Saudi provides funds to Pakistan. Saudi and UAE are also close allies in most respects.

2. Saudi, UAE and Pakistan all see China as a superpower which will one day eclipse the US in economic power, as per the surveys. Given time, that economic power will translate in military power.

3. China is Pakistan's most vital strategic partner in its rivalry with India

4. China is also the most important customer for the oil and gas produced by Saudi. Presumably this applies to UAE as well, but the numbers aren't readily available.

5. China is also the most important import partner for Saudi and UAE

6. Iran has nowhere near the financial clout of Saudi Arabia, nor the aerospace production capability of Pakistan.

7. Saudi and Iran have tense relations, and Saudi doesn't want China to turn to Iran. A FC-31 project involving Saudi and China would lock in a strategic partnership, probably involving Pakistan and UAE as well.

8. UAE has suspended a contract for 50 F-35s, so is weighing its options.

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9. China is at the forefront of solar and battery technology. Saudi is one of the best locations for solar as it has lots of desert and sun. Note that Saudi currently burns a lot of oil to produce electricity. But it's cheaper to generate cheap solar electricity (now at 1cent/KWh in Saudi) and sell that oil instead for a lot more money. Saudi and China both know that oil demand is going to decline in the long-term.
 
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I just don't see Iran getting the FC-31.

1. Pakistan and Saudi are both Sunni countries with a long-standing relationship where part of the Pakistan military works for Saudi Arabia, and where Saudi provides funds to Pakistan. Saudi and UAE are also close allies in most respects.

2. Saudi, UAE and Pakistan all see China as a superpower which will one day eclipse the US in economic power, as per the surveys. Given time, that economic power will translate in military power.

3. China is Pakistan's most vital strategic partner in its rivalry with India

4. China is also the most important customer for the oil and gas produced by Saudi. Presumably this applies to UAE as well, but the numbers aren't readily available.

5. China is also the most important import partner for Saudi and UAE

6. Iran has nowhere near the financial clout of Saudi Arabia, nor the aerospace production capability of Pakistan.

7. Saudi and Iran have tense relations, and Saudi doesn't want China to turn to Iran. A FC-31 project involving Saudi and China would lock in a strategic partnership, probably involving Pakistan and UAE as well.

8. UAE has suspended a contract for 50 F-35s, so is weighing its options.

Right, china will pick sunni nations over Iran any day of the week. There is a reason they have never exported anything significant to Iran. The market for fc31 is huge if they don't mess it up.
 
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