Shenyang FC-31 / J-31 Fighter Demonstrator

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Pakistan Air Force Colonel: We do not buy the F-31
2014-11-12 14:46:14 Source: Netease military

Colonel Aamir: F-31 is a very good fighter, even better "Fierce Dragon" performance ratio. But I think the "Fierce Dragon" Air Force is currently able to meet our needs, there is no intention to buy.
Pakistan Air Force Colonel: We do not buy the F-31



November 12 morning, Netease military in front of reporters for the Pakistan Air Force Colonel Aamir had an exclusive interview, the Pakistan Air Force, he was a senior representative of the exhibition. It is worth mentioning that, in the booth across from the Palestinian side is that the F-31 stealth fighter model stands. The following is a reporter's interview with Colonel Aamir.

Do you think the "Fierce Dragon" fighter (Pakistan called JF-17) how to behave in the Pakistan Air Force?

Colonel Aamir: I think the "Fierce Dragon" is a very good fighter, maintenance, performance is very good, our Air Force pilots on the "Fierce Dragon" evaluation are very high.

How do you see for the F-31 "falcon Eagle" stealth fighter? Are Pakistan Air Force intends to buy?

Colonel Aamir: F-31 is a very good fighter, even better "Fierce Dragon" performance ratio. But I think the "Fierce Dragon" Air Force is currently able to meet our needs, there is no intention to buy.

Do you think the Pakistan Air Force in the future the possibility of cooperation in use "Fierce Dragon" fighter, the introduction of the F-31 it?

Colonel Aamir: I think it is very possible that Pakistan aircraft research and development, there are many places to learn from China.

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India-Pakistan relations/tension is at the calmest point in the last few decades. So Pakistan isn't desperate to get 4th gen fighters. Another reason is its current political and economic states aren't doing so well. The country isn't stable and economic growth isn't going as fast as everyone expects. They probably can't financially afford to equip J31 level jets in large numbers.
 

AssassinsMace

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Yeah and it looks like every flight simulator game also. Earthy colors for a computer flight simulation must be copyrighted by Google because no one would ever think of representing green for foliage.
 

davidwangqi

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why do I feel it's wide enough to fit two more?
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Equation

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Did it ever come out ??? As far as I know there is NO, not a single confirmed image of a WS-13 available. As such this engine is more speculation and rumors than hard fact.

Deino

For now, but not forever. Can you guaranteed it's non-existence today or into the future? Just because we don't see it now, that doesn't mean the program don't exist.
 

Jeff Head

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why do I feel it's wide enough to fit two more?
If the fins do not fold...less room.

But desote that, they do appear to have room to place one in between the two on each side, offset, and stacked a little higher. They should be able to get six in there IMHO.
 

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Blitzo was quoted!

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FC-31
This up to date scale model of the FC-31 (the J-31's export designation) at Zhuhai 2014 shows several important upgrades from "31001", including the installation of a Electro Optical Targeting Sensor (EOTS) pod under the nose (shiny gold fairing).
Blitzo at Sinodefense Forum
 

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Blitzo was quoted!

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Ty to skywatcher as always.

Although I think it would be prudent to describe it as an IRST rather than EOTS, for similar reasons to what I described in the J-20 thread. The article actually describes it as an IRST but the picture caption calls it an EOTS lol...
 

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Without external pylons:


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Open weappons bays:


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With external pylons and gun pod:


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Yes, you can say she looks completely "organic", and the fit and finish are very precise, no doubt the stealth shaping is very effective, while I still don't really believe this chick is slicker than the F-22, on a good day she might be, don't forget that the Raptor's L/O is very dependant on keeping the coatings and seals in shape,,,,,, for those who aren't familiar with such things, gear doors, weapons bays, refueling doors, all get a little "shopworn" in not meticoulously maintained? Looks like she's "mugging" for the camera, and hey if I looked like that, I'd be looking for somebody with a camera!

and I had to explain all this for the Honey Badger???? she wanted to know why I was smiling, LOL?

notice the horizontal stabs are deflected upward to hold the nose above the horizon in the inverted position, almost all aircraft take a little more forward stick to maintain level flight when you are "inverted", from my experience the A-10 will not maintain altitude inverted flight, not to mention that all that dihedral make it very unstable in the roll axis. I am looking at the bottom picture, I do think the F-35will be a very precise A2G platform due to the helmet mounted sight and the EOTAS. While I love the old A-10, I would not want to fly one into the kind of airspace the F-35 will have to frequent to do its best work?

How will the J-31 stack up against the F-35,,,, I still tend to think the J-31 will be more A2A, but it will no doubt have some A2G capabiity, it tends to reflect the earlier generation shaping of the F-117 and the F-22, much more angular, it will take a more fully developed pre-production prototype to really start to give some indication of real world RCS??

Did I say this airplane is growing on me, the ThunderHoggeII, even the B in the top picture is as slick as a "babys butt" in Johnson and Johnson's baby oil, yeah my Momma used to coat me in that stuff when we went to the beach, so yeah, I'm all in on this bird now! and the J-31, both very pretty airplanes, and I think Pakistan ought to buy at least 24 to get the ball rolling!
 
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