Shenyang FC-31 / J-31 Fighter Demonstrator

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Air Force Brat

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this video was shot about a month ago( Jun 13, 2014 ) at Shenyang

So we have this video shot one month ago, of the J-31 in flight, now the next 4 posts suggest the J-31 is "frozen"?????? unwanted?????? elements of the J-31, will be??? have been????? incorporated into the J-10??????? really???? and J-20??????? whut???????? honestly I'm somewhat shocked by each of these suggestions, and no supporting evidence, other than no real updates.... If we used this same logic, we might come to the same conclusion about the indigenous aircraft carrier, may be even the J-20?????
 

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So we have this video shot one month ago, of the J-31 in flight, now the next 4 posts suggest the J-31 is "frozen"?????? unwanted?????? elements of the J-31, will be??? have been????? incorporated into the J-10??????? really???? and J-20??????? whut???????? honestly I'm somewhat shocked by each of these suggestions, and no supporting evidence, other than no real updates.... If we used this same logic, we might come to the same conclusion about the indigenous aircraft carrier, may be even the J-20?????

People love to make up story. ;)
 

TerraN_EmpirE

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So we have this video shot one month ago, of the J-31 in flight, now the next 4 posts suggest the J-31 is "frozen"?????? unwanted?????? elements of the J-31, will be??? have been????? incorporated into the J-10??????? really???? and J-20??????? whut???????? honestly I'm somewhat shocked by each of these suggestions, and no supporting evidence, other than no real updates.... If we used this same logic, we might come to the same conclusion about the indigenous aircraft carrier, may be even the J-20?????

Calm your self Brat... Or do I have to break out the Water Hose?
My point is that the PLA J20 Program and the J31 may have some degree of inter breeding. Look at the First block of J20 Prototypes They are very Crude When compared to the latest blocks Almost a Totally different bird. Block one had RCSR features but it was far less refined closer to Gen IV fighter then Gen V. then J31 rolls on the Tarmac, It's got a lot of features we see on 2011 and later. My thinking is that to some degree the two Teams whether J31 is official or otherwise was used to gather some data that was fed into the redesign of J20. The Cockpit Canipe The Clipped Tails the alterations to the Intakes and nose.
 

thunderchief

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So we have this video shot one month ago, of the J-31 in flight, now the next 4 posts suggest the J-31 is "frozen"?????? unwanted??????

Actually, that latest video of J-31 flying (again) with landing gear down in a circle convinced me that Chinese military doesn't have any ambitious plans with this plane . If they did, they would at least have 3102 performing basic flight maneuvers like they did with J-20. Instead, all we have is 3101 slowly flying around with gear down and that's about it.
 

AssassinsMace

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I don't know why the conversation in the J-31 thread has turned into how the PLA is bankrupt. Was there an article published jumping for joy the PLA has run out of money? If so... please link. If not... is this just wishful thinking? Funny how China is charged with being secretive especially when it comes to the military yet somehow when there's no news, it's all about technological failures that China can't recover from or now bankruptcy. How would you know if China is so secretive? Since when did China have to give nobodies in other countries a personal invitation in order for things to be officially confirmed or else it never happened? If you've noticed, the bar of what China could never do has been raised to adjust to the nightmare called reality. And I'm not talking about China having a stealth fighter program which many did not believe could happen let alone have two at the same time. Remember how they said since the government owns everything, advancement is lost because there is no competition? Well what's the J-31? It's said SAC funded the project on its own. How does that happen if the state is the final say on everything? Like other countries aren't competition too that spur advancement? Then to believe the PLA is bankrupt is absurd. Like the military isn't a priority to the government? They'll make dozens of ghost cities as charged by the West costing unimaginable billions yet somehow something prevents them from funding the military? Let's not forget the PLA runs businesses, including non-military related, of their own. If the PLA runs their own businesses, then it's not hard to believe CAC and SAC are too. Maybe because that doesn't happen in the West, that's somehow a negative? I call that entrepreneurial if they're making money to fund their own projects. The irony is China is being painted as different from the norm yet those very people use the template of their own system to understand China.
 

Deino

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Guys ... come on ! Actually it's indeed the lack of information, the heat outside (at least here at home in Germany) or something else ??

Yes, we've rarely seen images from the J-31 at SAC, but the sames goes for the J-8 too ... I think we simply need to consider a combination of reasons, for this lack of news and information, but we should be more than careful to conclude anything.

1. it is a private venture or at least lower priority project ...
2. the project itself is in a completely different flight-test phase compared to the J-20 (one vs. now four prototypes)
3. SAC is not as visibly accessible like CAC (overall we have a lot more images from CAC than SAC) ...
4. ... as such we usually see the J-31 with the gears down on final approach.
5. maybe there are simply less spotters at SAC than in CAC ?
6. ....

Just comparing to the Y-20 ! Is that project dead too ??? I've seen even less images from the Y-20 ...
As such calm down and drink some tea .... and wait !

Deino
 
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