Shenyang FC-31 / J-31 Fighter Demonstrator

Of course all projects cannot be financed. People propose projects, the military propose changes to fit them in one or more hypothetical military establishments, then the military or their political masters decide what to develop.

Thanks,schrage musik
Very nice pictrue

schrage musik said:

indeed. a very valid point. My post was just in response to centrist's question. why want another 4th gen design when you already have the J-20 coming? The only explanation can be that this plane is meant for carrying heavy a2g weaponry that the j-20 cannot. This fits in with the rumors of this plane being heavier than the J-20 and being less optimised for a2a roles.

PS: i found these graphics. I have no idea how credible they are. But I remember last year a similar graphic had come out comparing four different configurations of the J-20 on the same parameters as in this graphic. I'll just post them. the only comment i'll venture to make is that as these are canard configurations, they are unlikely to have anything to have to do with Shenyang. Source of the graphics is Prasun Sengupta's Blog.

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Thanks for the pics. I think those are either fan boy images or from video games as I recalled through other defense forums. It does make a nice background image for my computer screen though.

Equation said:

Thanks for the pics. I think those are either fan boy images or from video games as I recalled through other defense forums. It does make a nice background image for my computer screen though.

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It also bares A very striking resemblance too the failed Boeing X-32 JSF submission.

TerraN_EmpirE said:

It also bares A very striking resemblance too the failed Boeing X-32 JSF submission.

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The location of engine is different and X-32 does not have movable LERX like that on T-50.

I don't know, this one looks chubbier.

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Note Compared with images seen on post # 187
Not as Different as you might think
( See attached images One prototype X32 the other computer graphic.) the Air intake on both is about the same and there is not indication of where internal the engine in the graphic is located the wing structures are different but the fuselage is more or less dead on. The Wind is the big change here but there are different types show in the graphics reverse swept, Delta, modified delta with tail. I think Who ever made these Graphics and or design ( assuming that this is really based on a a real fighter in development.) was really heavily influenced by the X32 whether or not that means that a Fighter like these will come out or not I can not say.

schrage musik said:

indeed. a very valid point. My post was just in response to centrist's question. why want another 4th gen design when you already have the J-20 coming? The only explanation can be that this plane is meant for carrying heavy a2g weaponry that the j-20 cannot. This fits in with the rumors of this plane being heavier than the J-20 and being less optimised for a2a roles.

PS: i found these graphics. I have no idea how credible they are. But I remember last year a similar graphic had come out comparing four different configurations of the J-20 on the same parameters as in this graphic. I'll just post them. the only comment i'll venture to make is that as these are canard configurations, they are unlikely to have anything to have to do with Shenyang. Source of the graphics is Prasun Sengupta's Blog.

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I am thinking this looks like fan art. Just look at the proposed weapons bay configurations. It makes no sense. You have a two tiered package, but the top tier cannot be released while the bottom tier is in place. And to place short range PL8s at the bottom while the PL12s and bombs sit at the top is clearly backwards.

The only way that configuration would work is if the PL8s attached to the bay doors and parted to make way as the weapons bays are opened. But that would make the RCS of the plane ballon to the point where even conventional radars will be able to pick it up from any angle other than directly above.

I am also struggling to see how some of the missiles and bombs will be able to clear the weapons bay at all.

It just looks like someone trying to pack as much weapons in as possible with little regard for how the thing will work in real life, the hallmark of a fanboy's work in my book.

Anyone care to translate? Supposedly it has info about Shenyang's stealth project