Shenyang FC-31 / J-31 Fighter Demonstrator

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Vini_Vidi_Vici

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mack8 said:
What is this pseudo-religious mumbo jumbo has to do with J-31 again? With all due respect, why don't you save your christian nation stuff for somewhere else? Btw it's YOUR master, not anyone's else. Some choose not to be ..."mastered" yanno.

And you know i've noticed you around here some time ago, i've always being surprised to see an american actually not calling the chinese names (inferior ,yellow bastards, chicoms, trying to take over the world, copycats, USA strong !!!11!! you name it). Are you some sort of CIA sock-puppet trying to befriend the chinese folks here to gather information ? :)

Anyway , would love to see more pictures or anything of J-31 ( especialy that rumoured rollout video) .So come on SAC , will be good for your sales prospects! lol
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This is guy is nuts, definitely a Chinese guy.

I noticed most Chinese netizens have an anti-American sentiment. Any comments that is negative towards China even in the slightest manner (many not even disrespectful, but just pointing out facts), will attract eggs and rocks from them, plus a stockpile of insult unloaded onto your family. They will say that you work for the Americans and all negatives comments (even truth) are targeted towards Chinese people. Even if it's an article from Australia or France, they still tell you to collect your money from the Americans. Which is ridiculous and funny.

The bottomline is, this forum is professional and demand equal respect amongst all its members. If you want to trash talk, go join 6park or Sina forums, not here. If you want to stay, you would have to contribute meaningful, worthy and especially respectful knowledge about Chinese military. Even if you want to prove a point, do it in a professional manner, list evidences and facts, not trash talks.
 
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AssassinsMace

AssassinsMace

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Vini_Vidi_Vici said:
This is guy is nuts, definitely a Chinese guy.

I noticed most Chinese netizens have an anti-American sentiment. Any comments that is negative towards China even in the slightest manner (many not even disrespectful, but just pointing out facts), will attract eggs and rocks from them, plus a stockpile of insult unloaded onto your family. They will say that you work for the Americans and all negatives comments (even truth) are targeted towards Chinese people. Even if it's an article from Australia or France, they still tell you to collect your money from the Americans. Which is ridiculous and funny.

The bottomline is, this forum is professional and demand equal respect amongst all its members. If you want to trash talk, go join 6park or Sina forums, not here. If you want to stay, you would have to contribute meaningful, worthy and especially respectful knowledge about Chinese military. Even if you want to prove a point, do it in a professional manner, list evidences and facts, not trash talks.
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Do you think that's a monopoly of Chinese netizens? All you have to do is go go anyone elses forum and see how they feel about the Chinese. Go to Yahoo and read any article that has to do with China or another culture and nothing political and the majority of comments are racist. Key Forum used to be somewhat professional. Now you can't say anything that isn't critical of China or you're considered a commie agent. That's not accepting of anyone elses opinion. That's an old tactic to intimidate someone from giving their opinion that doesn't follow their own. Just like some in here have brought up the disloyalty card to members who live in the West including myself just for again not bashing China to their liking. Oh so now Chinese can't have an individual opinion and think for themselves and have to instead follow what others say? And why do they resort to these tactics? Because they can't win their argument which means they weren't in here for a civil discussion in the first place. They're just in here to tell everyone how to think. So who's the one against Western values?
 
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mack8

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Vini_Vidi_Vici said:
This is guy is nuts, definitely a Chinese guy.

I noticed most Chinese netizens have an anti-American sentiment. Any comments that is negative towards China even in the slightest manner (many not even disrespectful, but just pointing out facts), will attract eggs and rocks from them, plus a stockpile of insult unloaded onto your family. They will say that you work for the Americans and all negatives comments (even truth) are targeted towards Chinese people. Even if it's an article from Australia or France, they still tell you to collect your money from the Americans. Which is ridiculous and funny.

The bottomline is, this forum is professional and demand equal respect amongst all its members. If you want to trash talk, go join 6park or Sina forums, not here. If you want to stay, you would have to contribute meaningful, worthy and especially respectful knowledge about Chinese military. Even if you want to prove a point, do it in a professional manner, list evidences and facts, not trash talks.
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Oh, but you cannot be more wrong mister VVV. I am NOT chinese and i actually live (for the moment anyway) in western Europe, UK to be precise. Oh, and i'm not arab or muslim either, just to answer your question before you will ( probably) adress it.

Not sure if you actually misunderstood my post to AFB, but here we go.

Anyway, sorry for the rather flagrant off topic, if the mods here think i was over the line please do let me know.

Hoping for that J-31 roll-out video soon! :)
 
cn_habs

cn_habs

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As someone who previously lived in China , Vini clearly has not seen the comment sections from Western general public on WSJ, Yahoo, Economist, etc. It's always funny to see them whining about democracy and human rights in China while some of the main Western allies are Saudi Arabia and Bahrein.

Anyway back to topic. There haven't been many pics because the spotters have a hard time getting near SAC which is much more strict about security than CAC IMHO.
 
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jackliu

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Vini_Vidi_Vici said:
This is guy is nuts, definitely a Chinese guy.

I noticed most Chinese netizens have an anti-American sentiment. Any comments that is negative towards China even in the slightest manner (many not even disrespectful, but just pointing out facts), will attract eggs and rocks from them, plus a stockpile of insult unloaded onto your family. They will say that you work for the Americans and all negatives comments (even truth) are targeted towards Chinese people. Even if it's an article from Australia or France, they still tell you to collect your money from the Americans. Which is ridiculous and funny.

The bottomline is, this forum is professional and demand equal respect amongst all its members. If you want to trash talk, go join 6park or Sina forums, not here. If you want to stay, you would have to contribute meaningful, worthy and especially respectful knowledge about Chinese military. Even if you want to prove a point, do it in a professional manner, list evidences and facts, not trash talks.
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Same thing goes for other people that are anti Chinese, have you ever tried to post something positive/constructive about China on Yahoo or any other forum? Trust me, you will get labeled as a paid 50 cent faster before you can type reply.

While I am not defending this guys's reply, however you make it seems this problem belong only to the Chinese, while in effect, it is even worse about the other side, because from what I can see, most Chinese have much better understanding of the West than people from the West have understanding about China.
 
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muddie

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AssassinsMace said:
Do you think that's a monopoly of Chinese netizens? All you have to do is go go anyone elses forum and see how they feel about the Chinese. Go to Yahoo and read any article that has to do with China or another culture and nothing political and the majority of comments are racist. Key Forum used to be somewhat professional. Now you can't say anything that isn't critical of China or you're considered a commie agent. That's not accepting of anyone elses opinion. That's an old tactic to intimidate someone from giving their opinion that doesn't follow their own. Just like some in here have brought up the disloyalty card to members who live in the West including myself just for again not bashing China to their liking. Oh so now Chinese can't have an individual opinion and think for themselves and have to instead follow what others say? And why do they resort to these tactics? Because they can't win their argument which means they weren't in here for a civil discussion in the first place. They're just in here to tell everyone how to think. So who's the one against Western values?
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As far as Yahoo goes, most of the China bashing and racist comments come from Filipino and Vietnamese posters whom uses multiple accounts to do so. Most Americans don't really care about what happens in SCS and island disputes. You will also notice a trend on Yahoo news, in which Americans seem to think that stopping imports from China will completely destroy China's economy and other kinds of laughable ways they think the American government can improve the economy. They seem to think they know more than then American government.
Sadly, most intelligent Americans do not comment on these general articles and obviously a large majority of the comments based on other ethnic/cultural groups are in fact racist. If you think the comments on China are bad, go to one that has to do with Mexicans or Muslims/Middle Eastern countries.
 
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getready

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jackliu said:
Same thing goes for other people that are anti Chinese, have you ever tried to post something positive/constructive about China on Yahoo or any other forum? Trust me, you will get labeled as a paid 50 cent faster before you can type reply.

While I am not defending this guys's reply, however you make it seems this problem belong only to the Chinese, while in effect, it is even worse about the other side, because from what I can see, most Chinese have much better understanding of the West than people from the West have understanding about China.
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I suggest that you not go to Singaporean forums with colonial era and pinkerton syndrome mentality. The amount of Sinophobia is frightening.
 
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hmmwv

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Vini_Vidi_Vici said:
This is guy is nuts, definitely a Chinese guy.

I noticed most Chinese netizens have an anti-American sentiment. Any comments that is negative towards China even in the slightest manner (many not even disrespectful, but just pointing out facts), will attract eggs and rocks from them, plus a stockpile of insult unloaded onto your family. They will say that you work for the Americans and all negatives comments (even truth) are targeted towards Chinese people. Even if it's an article from Australia or France, they still tell you to collect your money from the Americans. Which is ridiculous and funny.

The bottomline is, this forum is professional and demand equal respect amongst all its members. If you want to trash talk, go join 6park or Sina forums, not here. If you want to stay, you would have to contribute meaningful, worthy and especially respectful knowledge about Chinese military. Even if you want to prove a point, do it in a professional manner, list evidences and facts, not trash talks.
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This generalization by you is appalling, IMO Chinese netizens are overwhelmingly pro west or should I say open to foreign ideas, while it's exactly the opposite in almost every single forum in the US, the mentality is that if you don't bash China then you must be a communist paid to spread propaganda. Even in sites that suppose to have nothing to do with politics such as Autoblog or Engadget.

Enough OT stuff, mod probably needs to delete the above exchanges.
 
MiG-29

MiG-29

Banned Idiot
Air Force Brat said:
I realized early on Player that as an American, I was and am extremely priviledged and blessed to be born in what was a Christian Nation. One of the reasons that many Americans are generous is that sense of being blessed and having a desire to share what we have, including our freedoms and self-determination. I know that I have no idea what you and many others have been through, and I assure you that it is not arrogance, but a desire to share that motivates many of the actions that others may resent. I have good friends that I love from, Bangladesh, India, and Africa, and now China, whose struggles break my heart. I hate to see my own Nation move away from the belief in our Master, that has brought so much blessing and abundance, and I hate thinking that our children will miss these blessings if we don't turn this around. I assure you my brother, that you are far from ordinary, and have a very kind and gracious heart, like that Chinese lady who rescued those babies from the dumps, she is in many ways like Mother Theresa, a true heroine, and you my brother have a true nobility that transcends our cultural differences, and I really do consider you a true friend. Thanks for sharing a little wisdom with me, and I hope at some point that I can be a blessing to you as well. Bax

I really do like this J-31, it is a nice looking bird, and until Jeff posted his F-35/F-22 pictures it was my screen shot, I believe that Shenyang will get this baby up and running and may well have a shot at developing the follow on aircraft to the J-15, as it seems to be a right sized aircraft, and it does seem to have the potential for being another world class aircraft from the mainland.
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I am Cristian too, and i have jewish family in Israel, what you say is true values are very important, part of the decadence of Russia was the political system destroyed many spiritual values of the old orthodox christianity.

Science and religion are not enemies, when in a society there is caos, industries also decay.

This is reflected in Russia`s aerospace decay in the 1990s.

However now we live a globalize world, no aerospace industry is nowadays purely national, today all fighters are international programs not even PAKFA or F-22 are exception.

China is no exception, however some countries try to reduce dependance in foreign sources, so China is trying to build its fleet of stealth fighters with the less foreign participation, but this day we are mostly living in a global village
 
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