So shall it be for Navy then!
According to people who saw that video, this J-31 is a platform with three versions: Airforce, Navy, Export.
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So shall it be for Navy then!
According to people who saw that video, this J-31 is a platform with three versions: Airforce, Navy, Export.
It might also has a fraction capabilities of the J-20... Since it is export. The AESA radar will not be as powerful as PLAAF version. Lesser payload and capacity. Lesser range.....
So it is similar to the F-22, F-35 situation. It is still good, the key here is stealth.
Hendrik_2000
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Now for all of you fanboys who constantly depreciating Chinese achievement in aerospace read this article from foreign policy
PACAF Chief: China is closing the stealth gap
Posted By John Reed Wednesday, September 19, 2012 - 6:29 PM Share
In the wake of China's rollout of its second stealthy-looking fighter, the J-31, earlier this week, the chief of all U.S. Air Force operations in the Pacific acknowledged that China is closing the stealth technology gap that has existed between the U.S. military and its "potential adversaries."
"They're behind us [but] they are making gains, they are improving in technology," Gen. Herbert Carlisle said today during a press conference at the Air Force Association's annual conference just outside of Washington. "We've had an advantage in stealth for a number of years. That kind of time [gap] will not occur again.... I think whatever advantages we have technologically will still be there, but they won't last as long."
Pictures emerged on Chinese military Internet forums over the weekend showing the J-31, a jet that blatantly borrows designs from the United States premier stealth fighters, the Lockheed Martin-made F-22 Raptor and F-35 Joint Strike Fighter.
"The PRC with respect to stealth capability, they are behind us, but they will develop and they will get better, and we certainly can't rest on our position. We have to continue to get better," he added.
While this may seem obvious, it's important because U.S. defense officials have until recently downplayed China's new stealthy-looking jets (while pointing to the PRC's investment in new air defense system, ballistic and anti-satellite missiles and cyber capabilities as helping to prompt the Air Sea Battle concept and things like the Air Force's new bomber). After China unveiled its first stealthy-looking fighter, the J-20, in late 2010, then-Defense Secretary Robert Gates was quick to point out that Chinese military technology remained several decades behind that of the United States.
Still, it should be noted that simply having a stealthy shape does not mean the Chinese planes are truly stealth planes. Modern stealth aircraft involves the sues of special radar absorbent coatings, along with heat and electronic signature masking technology.
Carlisle also reiterated that the Pentagon's biggest question is what China wants to do with all of the advanced military technology that it is developing -- from aircraft carriers and stealthy fighter jets, to ballistic missiles and anti-satellite and cyber weapons.
"That's the question that we continually ask. Obviously [in the] PRC the Great Wall of China is figuratively and literally there. It's been a closed culture and a closed society. They are opening up obviously, but it's hard to get that information from them," said Carlisle. "They clearly have an approach that is more closed and more secretive than ours is, as a general rule. They have a tendency to deflect those questions with, ‘Well, what about you guys?'"
Carlisle noted that "China considers itself a regional power and a rising world power" and that this will affect how it interacts with the United States.
Carlisle agreed with comments made earlier in the day by Air Force Maj. Gen. Steven Kwast, director of requirements for the service's Air Combat Command, warning against a needless arms race between the United States and China.
"That is the intent," evolving with China and other Asian nations instead of competing with them, added Carlisle. "But you generally have to do it from a position where you can continue your influence."
PACAF Chief: China is closing the stealth gap
Posted By John Reed Wednesday, September 19, 2012 - 6:29 PM Share
In the wake of China's rollout of its second stealthy-looking fighter, the J-31, earlier this week, the chief of all U.S. Air Force operations in the Pacific acknowledged that China is closing the stealth technology gap that has existed between the U.S. military and its "potential adversaries."
"They're behind us [but] they are making gains, they are improving in technology," Gen. Herbert Carlisle said today during a press conference at the Air Force Association's annual conference just outside of Washington. "We've had an advantage in stealth for a number of years. That kind of time [gap] will not occur again.... I think whatever advantages we have technologically will still be there, but they won't last as long."
Pictures emerged on Chinese military Internet forums over the weekend showing the J-31, a jet that blatantly borrows designs from the United States premier stealth fighters, the Lockheed Martin-made F-22 Raptor and F-35 Joint Strike Fighter.
"The PRC with respect to stealth capability, they are behind us, but they will develop and they will get better, and we certainly can't rest on our position. We have to continue to get better," he added.
While this may seem obvious, it's important because U.S. defense officials have until recently downplayed China's new stealthy-looking jets (while pointing to the PRC's investment in new air defense system, ballistic and anti-satellite missiles and cyber capabilities as helping to prompt the Air Sea Battle concept and things like the Air Force's new bomber). After China unveiled its first stealthy-looking fighter, the J-20, in late 2010, then-Defense Secretary Robert Gates was quick to point out that Chinese military technology remained several decades behind that of the United States.
Still, it should be noted that simply having a stealthy shape does not mean the Chinese planes are truly stealth planes. Modern stealth aircraft involves the sues of special radar absorbent coatings, along with heat and electronic signature masking technology.
Carlisle also reiterated that the Pentagon's biggest question is what China wants to do with all of the advanced military technology that it is developing -- from aircraft carriers and stealthy fighter jets, to ballistic missiles and anti-satellite and cyber weapons.
"That's the question that we continually ask. Obviously [in the] PRC the Great Wall of China is figuratively and literally there. It's been a closed culture and a closed society. They are opening up obviously, but it's hard to get that information from them," said Carlisle. "They clearly have an approach that is more closed and more secretive than ours is, as a general rule. They have a tendency to deflect those questions with, ‘Well, what about you guys?'"
Carlisle noted that "China considers itself a regional power and a rising world power" and that this will affect how it interacts with the United States.
Carlisle agreed with comments made earlier in the day by Air Force Maj. Gen. Steven Kwast, director of requirements for the service's Air Combat Command, warning against a needless arms race between the United States and China.
"That is the intent," evolving with China and other Asian nations instead of competing with them, added Carlisle. "But you generally have to do it from a position where you can continue your influence."
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Advanced stealth fighters use a whole host of technologies to make an aircraft perform in today's air combat environment. There are engines, coatings, avionics,software and pilot integration just to name a few. Seeing how difficult it has been to bring F-22 and F-35 to operational status there is no indication China will have it any easier. Ten to fifteen years seems to be the standard time. More if you are starting further behind.
Nobody say its easy.. But Chief of Airforce says stealth gap are closing between USAF and PLAAF. MOre or less China stealth has near reach US level. I never heard he says anything about Russia PAFKA stealth level.
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Hendrik_2000
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The idea that fighter development in China must follow US pattern is completely wrong. Having started late in fighter design and development, allow you to learn the mistake that other made.
US stealth program delay and over budget was the result of self inflicted snafu caused by cramming to many requirements on the platform and gold plating the weapon and sensor with never ending requirements
The idea of common platform for Navy, Air Force and Marine was to reduced cost of separate development and reduced the complexity of logistic. But it end badly because they have to compromise the design for different service requirement instead of optimizing for each service requirements.
China will not repeat the same mistake for sure!
Unlike Soviet Union China have a flourishing civilian industries. You name it they are on the top in the area of consumer electronics, shipping, machinery, material science, telecommunication etc
That will translate in million of skilled people who are converse in the latest technology After all Defense industries derive its strength from a robust civilian industries
There is still a lot of catch up to do like in Turbomachinery design and development. But that is exactly because China doesn't have civilian air industry to speak of. It will change in due time
Without building and flying their designs how can the Chinese even understand what mistakes others have made? Its called experience and there is no short cut around it.
What are you basing your assessment on? What non-US stealth aircraft are you comparing this opinion of your against? Right now the United States is it and the fact that the US is having some difficulty pulling all these elements together just demonstrates how difficult it is to assemble a competent stealthy aircraft.
And you should remember that F-22 and F-35 are SECOND generation stealth aircraft with F-117 and B-2 being the first generation.
Oh really? China has never built an aircraft as complex as even a first generation stealth aircraft. And now you look at an aircraft like the J-20 and the latest offering from China and tell me that they will not make the same mistakes for sure! Sadly you are just judging these Chinese aircraft only from their shapes and those external views are a poor indicator as to the stealthiness of those Chinese aircraft.
You already know that these Chinese aircraft are flying without engines capable of supercruise due to Chinese engine manufactures have trouble mastering the technologies needed for advanced engines. And when capable engines will be available is anybodies guess
You also have no idea of what coatings the Chinese can apply to these aircraft. But without the right coatings stealth is compromised. Stealth is more than shapes.
What you are trying to tell me is that China is going to leap over nearly 30 years of hard work by Lockeed Skunkworks, Northrup and others and create in ten short years a state of the art stealth aircraft that is on the same level as these designs being flown today. And you are going to tell me that Chinese workers assembling designs in China for western companies are going to provide the labor?
Get a cold towel and wipe your face because you are dreaming friend. Wake up!
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