I'm not concerned with any grizzles around here. But I read in New York Times and Washington Post that some 20% of army veterans from Iraq and Afghanistan have mental problems. And there are plenty of cases mentioned, think Aurora as an example, of people of unsound mental status going around with guns in the US.
Shenyang FC-31 / J-31 Fighter Demonstrator
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While I agree in principle to your opinion on the variable swept wing and disagree on TVC, I am wholly in agreement on V/Stol, and why I refer to it as eclectic or ecentric, and observe that the British and Marine Corp, are the primary customers for the F-35B, and to another poster the G limit on the B is 7.0 and for the C 7.5, as opposed to the As 9.0.
Agree. The only good thing I see about VTOL was the fact that it can be launched vertically, thus drastically reducing the flat surface needed for the aircraft to take off. However once the aircraft was in the air... be it vertically launched or taking off conventionally... it will depend on the aircraft's own capability (flight, radar, etc) and the pilot's skills.
VTOL is a useful thing to have, but was it a must... I hardly think so.
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let me aswer you like this, Argentina`s pilots were really good, i do not know how many languages do you speak but i speak 3 very well and 2 more with some degree of knowledge.
This allows me to know what the pilots from Argentina say, those who fought in the falklands, not british opinions that most of the time do not agree.
watch the video it is in spanish though those are the pilots from argentina that flew during the falklands but if you can not understand tell me i can translate to you what ever part of it you want, Argentina had in 1982 very good pilots but not the best jets, the Harrier and lack of exocets was one of the reason they lost
[video=youtube;PrUwGGXI1i4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrUwGGXI1i4&feature=BFa&list=PL8D58E888D8E1D07C[/video]
But according to this:
When I look at countries like China, who have stolen our Joint Strike Fighters, F-35 and F-22's, stolen those blueprints so they can manufacture those planes and then guard against those planes,” he said.
China has created citizen hacker groups engaged in cyber espionage, established cyber war military units and laced the U.S. infrastructure with logic bombs, he said.
The commission's 2009 Annual Report to Congress, citing a Wall Street Journal article, discussed "intruders, probably operating from China, that exfiltrated 'several terabytes of data related to design and electronics systems' of the F-35 Lightning II," one of the most advanced fighter planes under development.
Just looking at the J-31 you can see is basicly identical to a F-35 except it is twin engine
new J-21, which apparently hasn’t flown yet, first appeared over the weekend in photos snapped at the Shenyang Aircraft Corporation’s factory airfield in northeast China. One high-res pic clearly featured the twin-tail fighter’s two engines. “A good early guess is that the engines are Klimov RD-93s,” ace aviation reporter Bill Sweetman concluded.
The RD-93, a derivative of the engine fitted to Russia’s classic MiG-29 fighter, also powers China’s Chengdu JF-17, a light fighter intended for export. China bought at least 100 RD-93s from Russia starting in 2005. It seems at least two wound up with Shenyang for its new stealth fighter prototype.
Problem is, the MiG-29 was always under-powered, compared to Western fighters. It’s impossible to say based on surface appearances exactly how much the J-21 weighs, but it’s reasonable to assume it’s at least in the same weight class as the twin-tail, twin-engine MiG-29. That suggests the J-21 could be under-powered, too. That usually translates into poor combat performance — and can have safety implications, too.
Moreover, Russia is not the most reliable source of jet engines. In 2010, Moscow rejected a request by Beijing to purchase Russia’s latest AL-41 fighter engine. Experts assumed the PLA wanted the AL-41 to power the J-20 stealth fighter that debuted in leaked Internet photos in December 2010. Instead, the two J-20 prototypes ended up, respectively, with older AL-31s purchased earlier from Russia and Chinese copies of the AL-31 known as WS-10s.
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Mig-29 or anyone else, could we stop quoting such indiotic ramarks from these under-educated rednecks? I think none of us on this board would be actually stupid enough to believe that just by looking at the stolen fragmented design material, China could have in one year and three years respectively been able to create two aircraft designs which, really, happen to just share the looks with all aircraft including the F-35 and F-22. Or are some of us really that stupid?
And now who are we to say that the Americans have not been hacking into China's databases and hence knowing exactly what China has stolen from them? It's far more logical to believe that the USA, being the top dog in all kinds of technology and, of course, in espionage, must have hacked into China's databases far more and far more easily than vice versa, isn't it? And if so, it'd be logical to also believe that the USA could have easily protected its super duper secret databases from the lowly Chinese, isn't it??
Then why all the bitching about being stolen by the politically and technologically backward Chinese, and especially the bitching from none-American bitches??
close up of the wing and vertical
now that you mention the absence of pitot, i hope this bird can fly sooner
MiG-29
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look these are news and actually you just want to hide the sun with a single finger, the news were:
"Intruders from China hacked into computers and stole the blueprints for America’s new joint strike fighter planes, the F-35 and F-22, according to the chairman of the House Homeland Security Subcommittee on Oversight, Investigations and Management.
Intruders from China hacked into computers and stole the blueprints for America’s new joint strike fighter planes, the F-35 and F-22, according to the chairman of the House Homeland Security Subcommittee on Oversight, Investigations and Management.
Rep. Michael McCaul (R-Texas) made the statement during a Tuesday hearing on cyber security
during a Tuesday hearing on cyber security
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if you do not like the news is not my problem, and yes actually not only Rep. Michael McCaul (R-Texas) made the statement on cyber security but also Lockheed Martin Corporation, Northrop Grumman Corporation, and British Aerospace and Engineering reportedly all have experienced penetrations from hackers based in China in the past three years.
of course you do not know 3 years are enough to make a prototype, you like it or not 3 years is enough to make a prototype.
To give you an example work on JSF started in november 1996 and by 2000 the prototypes were ready
do not believe me watch this program
[video=youtube;1kNszWU7hTw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kNszWU7hTw[/video]
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