Shenyang FC-31 / J-31 Fighter Demonstrator

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MwRYum

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Hope Panetta will like it as much as Gates did for J20. :)

Nah, schedule wise not enough time to get it to first flight, besides you can't play the same trick twice, right?

Also, this one is aimed at export market, because for "stealth" fighter of this class and weight, F-60 is the first...or at least the first to progress into flight test stage...Project 718 aimed at domestic market from the start, so there's the difference. Of course, if the F-60 design proved to be a success they can always go back to win some contract from the PLAAF/ PLAN.
 

Lion

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Re: J-20... The New Generation Fighter III

True, the J-20's design was much more original, but still, look at the "copycat" comments when it first come out. But hey, whatever works right?

It's from shenyang? What dO u expect? They lack innovation, poor quality control. A big far cry from world class chengdu aviation.
This Plane is just trying to win order from foreign customer. It's performance will be far inferior than J-20.
 

jackliu

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Re: J-20... The New Generation Fighter III

It's from shenyang? What dO u expect? They lack innovation, poor quality control. A big far cry from world class chengdu aviation.
This Plane is just trying to win order from foreign customer. It's performance will be far inferior than J-20.

Nah, can't directly compare the two, this one is much smaller than J-20, it serves a different role.
 

Blitzo

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Via xinhui, CDF.

Looks like it does have engines (doesn't look very snug?) and is fairly HQ photo too..

Let's see key forum, secret projects, DEW and ares take this...

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Observations:
-you can see the tail sting quite clearly in this picture
-the engines appear somewhat "loose" in their nacelles, not sure what that could be indicative of. Maybe the engines are mock ups, or maybe space is for TVC? who knows
-what appears to be the central weapons bay is open. At this point I'm not sure if there's a side weapons bay like J-20/F-22 for SRAAM
-the front dual nosewheel appears to have some sort of contraption upon it? At the very least it looks quite bulky, and reminds me somewhat of the additional parts CATOBAR aircraft have to accomodate the hold back bar on the catapult. Of course it could just be a bulky front landing gear, I expect more higher detail photos will prove it true.
-the fact that we're getting such detailed photos from what must be quite close, at such frequency all of a sudden makes me believe this is SAC purposefully letting these pics slide out. When J-20 first came out, and even when we saw freshly made J-11B and J-15 parked out at shenyang the authorities were quite quick to limit proliferation of the photos, instead leaking them bit by bit. That makes me believe this plane may indeed by a wholly or near wholly self funded project by SAC.
-it looks very much like a mini F-22, and similar to all the proposals of medium weight 5th gen fighters like ATD-X, KFX, AMCA, TFX etc.
 
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paintgun

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those engines look so out of place, such a big gap

no room for side weapon bay?

re: your weapon bay question in CDF Blitzo, i think that's just the other side MLG cover
 

Blitzo

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those engines look so out of place, such a big gap

no room for side weapon bay?

re: your weapon bay question in CDF Blitzo, i think that's just the other side MLG cover

I don't think so, I'm talking about the long panel directly behind the front landing gear. It's far too long to be the other side MLG panel, and if you look at their joints, they seem to join directly under the fuselage. The fact that there seems to be a "pair" is also indicative of the main weapon bay...
 

paintgun

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ah yea, i see it now

engines look just like RD-33 to me
do we have any well documented WS-13 photo anywhere? is it a straight equivalent to the RD-33, or something a bit different?

that gap makes me think those are just temporary, and certainly not LO friendly
 
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