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now if we factor that in with this.
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and even @Deino's post

Clear sign in the past week that the Saudis are pushing to move away from America. If you are sitting somewhere in Washington, I don't know how you can take these news in any other directions. I don't think it really matters what Chinese AWACS the Saudis are interested in. But we know China has been pitching everything under the sun to the Saudis. And it appears to me that the Saudis are ready to jump off the USA train.
Seems to me like KSA has always been a good partner for China than Iran. Would have thought it will be the opposite since Iran has been a staunch enemy of the U.S . So would have thought the enemy of my enemy is my friend law applied here.
 

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Seems to me like KSA has always been a good partner for China than Iran. Would have thought it will be the opposite since Iran has been a staunch enemy of the U.S . So would have thought the enemy of my enemy is my friend law applied here.
I think both side wants to stop turkish influence. US under biden now pave ways to support turkey and Saudis don't like it.
 

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Things to think about today

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about this decision. It's interesting that according to the Duran folks, US had no knowledge of this production cut decision, while China did. That would indicate how things are now shifting in the oil producing world. Saudis are openly moving away from American spheres. I crack up at the MAGA people who think Trump can just wave a wand and get Saudis back in the fold. Saudis have been slowly moving toward China for years and they've decided to be open about it now. Just need to wait for military announcement to come out now.

Why are the Arab world openly moving away from America? Well.

This might have something to do with it. It's one thing for Arab countries to have relationship with Israel when they are dangled the economic benefits and promised F-35s in return. It's quite another thing when they are told to give up relationship with China & have these continued attacks on the Palestinians and Syrians. Sunnis and Shiites are both victims in this crisis.

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We will see how long the Abraham accord can last. Hong long can UAE keep its relationship with Israel when all of this is going on.

oh yeah and this. non-oil countries are getting slaughtered by IMF

of course, even the Kenyans can buy oil with their own money now. That will be an interesting test case

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and let's see what comes of this meeting. I'm sure China enjoys being in the lime light for bringing peace to the Middle East

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I do wonder if China will have a military presence in the middle east. military cooperation with saudis seem certain at this point
 
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China is now a more important partner than the US for Saudi Arabia's development. Chinese exports of metals, machinery, and transport equipment have crowded out US exports. Once Saudis start using Chinese cars (and planes?), there will be little market share left for the US..

automobile sector soon. but it will take sometime for Chinese aerospace industry to tap in Saudi market.
 

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We will see how long the Abraham accord can last. Hong long can UAE keep its relationship with Israel when all of this is going on.
UAE sheikhs are quite pragmatic and business minded just like CCP, so they will keep their ties with Israel and every other power. They are not one of the wealthiest country in the region/world by coincidence.
 

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UAE sheikhs are quite pragmatic and business minded just like CCP, so they will keep their ties with Israel and every other power. They are not one of the wealthiest country in the region/world by coincidence.
Since you are new to this forum, I will give you this rundown. We don't look at SeeSeePee as anything other than leadership for China. They represent China's interest. So, if you want to talk about Chinese leadership, just say China or Chinese leadership. I'm really annoyed by this Western narrative that somehow CCP is running China geopolitical different any other parties would run China.
 
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