That was in reference to pan-Turkism movement in Central Asian states. Some of them aren't even Turkic to begin with.Pan-Turkism isn't an issue? Think again.
Did you know a few days before the earthquake Turkey embassy was still spreading the Xinjiang issue through its official Weibo? Guess who reads Turkey's Weibo, it's not the domestic Turkish voting audience. They have now deleted the weibo post and only has a post asking for donations. Check out the tone in their post.
While I disagree with some of your other points I don't see how anyone can disagree with this. Straight up facts.There is no real pro-western factions in GCC countries or Russia or Pakistan to the degree you see in Iran.
Why does China need to demonstrate anything to Iran?
I don't get why you are so into helping Iran? Decades of sanctions have not killed off the pro-western faction of Iran. Decades of normal commerce has not allowed Chinese companies to dominate Iran's machinery import sector (like what we've seen in Russia in less than 1 year). And the 25 year agreement, which was made upon the assumption of JCPOA, got attacked by the liberal faction of Iran despite the fact that nobody else is offering anything to Iran.
It's amazing. Iran has not friend anywhere. China tries to be its friend and just get attacked inside Iran. With that kind of lack of appreciation, what's the point?
Just have regular commercial relationship with Iran that doesn't get yourself sanctioned.
You've not given a single reason why it's against China's interests to have good relations with Iran. Saudi and the GCC as a whole are a bigger economic block, I've not seen a single person here say relations with Iran should come at the cost of relations with the GCC, which is what your argument boils down to.China is not going to share advanced tech with other countries. That pool of skilled labor is just meaningless.
listed to yourself. China has the cars available and Iran just wants to wait for western products or Shan-zhai Chinese products. That's how it's always been. Iran gets Chinese design helps and then produce it for themselves.
How much economic benefits is in this relationship?
nah, Europe gave them the complete finger. China can just have regular commerce with Iran and that's it.
There is no real pro-western factions in GCC countries or Russia or Pakistan to the degree you see in Iran.
Why does China need to demonstrate anything to Iran?
I don't get why you are so into helping Iran? Decades of sanctions have not killed off the pro-western faction of Iran. Decades of normal commerce has not allowed Chinese companies to dominate Iran's machinery import sector (like what we've seen in Russia in less than 1 year). And the 25 year agreement, which was made upon the assumption of JCPOA, got attacked by the liberal faction of Iran despite the fact that nobody else is offering anything to Iran.
It's amazing. Iran has not friend anywhere. China tries to be its friend and just get attacked inside Iran. With that kind of lack of appreciation, what's the point?
Just have regular commercial relationship with Iran that doesn't get yourself sanctioned.
Again, be very careful about comparing Iran to Russia & NK. China has mutual defense agreement with NK and is in de facto alliance with Russia.
I don't see an Iranian nuclear deal being signed any time soon.This is what is holding things up:
Once that’s resolved then Iran becomes much easier to work with. An unsanctioned Iran is just as important as Saudi, Iran has gas which can be piped to China via Pakistan, and the same pipes can carry gas from Qatar.
Just as important is Irans geographical position, which is better than Saudi’s. Iran, as part of the BRI, can support large rail freight volumes between Europe and Middle East to their West and Pakistan, India and China to their East.
What I am also admiring is their support for Venezuela and other unilaterally sanctioned countries, they are able to help countries that China can’t, this makes them a powerful ally against the empire. They are doing a lot to usher in the new world order.
I also believe that Saudi and Iran are about to make peace, both leaders have said it clearly recently. They are doing this because of China.
JCPOA was something that China wished to be done. In fact, I would say that the whole 25-year deal with Iran was made because China anticipated that Iran and the West would agree on the JCPOA dealWith regards to China and the JCPOA, keeping the deal dead aligns very much in its interests. Right now the only country Iran is able to sell oil to in significant quantities to is China.
With a deal in place there will be a lot more countries lining up to buy Iranian oil and gas.
If the JCPOA breaking down was a problem it wouldn't have been signed. Back in 2021 there were no indications the deal was going to be revived. All this movement to restart it comes after the America was forced to sanction Russia after the war started and they needed alternative gas and oil providers.JCPOA was something that China wished to be done. In fact, I would say that the whole 25-year deal with Iran was made because China anticipated that Iran and the West would agree on the JCPOA deal
Call me pessimistic, but without JCPOA I cant see any big progress made on implementing the 25-year agreement
China sold some good stuff in the early 1990s such as the anti-ship missiles, but stopped under US pressure. China did not sell anything since that time, but neither to North Korea who has no western worshippers. Russia halted delivery of S-300 under US pressure only to deliver them when their relation with the west turned sore. I am trying to say that Iran not getting weapons from China and Russia is probably more to do with the two avoiding confrontation with US, not Iran not wanting for supposed "looking down on China" mentality.Oh China has definitely offered weapons to Iran. Not its best stuff, but better stuff than what Iranians can build themselves. Iranian street should be all Chinese cars by now (like what we see in Russia). Has that happened? No, your have the liberal wing of Iran who simply worships the west and does not respect China.