it's fair to say that people are expecting too much from SCO.
anyhow, ASEAN express coming. now China is fully connected with Malaysia by cargo rail
anyhow, ASEAN express coming. now China is fully connected with Malaysia by cargo rail
Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO) and Global South strategic cooperation
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How did it visit land-locked Serbia? Via Montenegro?
It was Seychelles (塞舌尔).
I hope I can finally clarify the issue of "veto" in SCO. Here is the SCO charter registered with UN Treaty Collection.
article 13 memberhip
If member frequently not fulfilling obligations, it may be expelled.
article 16,
resolution is passed if no member object (consensus), except resolution is to expel a member. When expelling a memeber, the resolution is passed if no other members object.
Members may have their reservations recorded in resolution. Memebers reservation to certain aspect of a resolution does not prevent resolution being passed (provided no objection) and implemented.
Article 24, reservation.
Reservation that is against the spirit, purpose and tasks of SCO, or effectively hinderring the execution of SCO's tasks is NOT permitted. Such reservation is seen as void if 2/3 of members object.
To summarize,
article 13 memberhip
If member frequently not fulfilling obligations, it may be expelled.
article 16,
resolution is passed if no member object (consensus), except resolution is to expel a member. When expelling a memeber, the resolution is passed if no other members object.
Members may have their reservations recorded in resolution. Memebers reservation to certain aspect of a resolution does not prevent resolution being passed (provided no objection) and implemented.
Article 24, reservation.
Reservation that is against the spirit, purpose and tasks of SCO, or effectively hinderring the execution of SCO's tasks is NOT permitted. Such reservation is seen as void if 2/3 of members object.
To summarize,
- SCO has provisions to expel non-cooperative memebers.
- There is no real veto in SCO, ultimately it is 2/3 majority rule. The "veto" in SCO is like the presidential "veto" in US that can be overridedn by 2/3 majorities in congress and senate. This is not the kind of veto in UNSC.
I'm getting more confused, by your explanation there is still a veto. Reservations can be overturned, but not objections. It seems like objections are different from reservations. 反对 is clearly different than 保留. I looked at the whole document, it doesn't further specify the connection between objections and reservations.
Reservation and objection are different, but objection is more severe than reservation, isn't it? Reservation does not hinder other members in conducting objectives of SCO, but objection does. So how could any sane person allow the worst but not allow the less. Rule is made by people and interpreted by people, if the objector is in the tiny minority he is in no position to argue his objection isn't hindrance/resistance to the objectives of SCO. At least it will be noted, repeated such behaviour will lead expulsion.
Let's play out how it might work. If one member object a resolution, others will make compromises to turn that objection to at least reservation (abstention). If in the end the objecting member still object, it is either it is blocking SCO's functioning, or the other members are acting against the objecting member's core interest. What do you think the other members will say and do? I don't think it matters how the only guy interprets the texts.
I must say that the treaty is written soft on the surface but harsh in reality (expulsion as the final punishment for non-coorperation).
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I think the there is also a difference between objection and reservation besides severity. I think reservation is used in the legal sense, from my basic understanding
A reservation is like an individual opt out of a specific provision, while allowing the resolution to pass, while objection would not allow the resolution to pass.
For example: India can have reservations about a provision on assisting counter terrorism in Afghanistan, while the motion passes. While India can also object to the ascendance of Cambodia in SCO as a full member.
Also many Chinese scholars already mentioned the veto problem in SCO, I think we should trust their judgement.
Some non Chinese sources:
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