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That's like saying Chinese help to US in spying on Soviet Union wasn't helpful. India allows US to build intelligence bases across from Tibet and Xinjiang, this is very detrimental to China's security. If intelligence bases aren't useful, why does the US build so many of them?
US isn't exactly short on intelligence bases around the world. a couple of more on India side of border won't do too much.

People need to relax a little bit. There is not much China can really do about India cooperating with US, but nothing it needs to be alarmed about either. I will get more alarmed about this if I actually respect India's security apparatus.
 

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Has this construction plan been finalised and approved by all parties? Who will bee doing the construction works? And how is this relevent to SCO?
Was there any plans finalized before Israel evicted Palestinian in 1948 or Syrian during 1967. Why would Israel tell that.
Also the canal will greatly effects the maritime routes which is economic security.
 
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US isn't exactly short on intelligence bases around the world. a couple of more on India side of border won't do too much.

People need to relax a little bit. There is not much China can really do about India cooperating with US, but nothing it needs to be alarmed about either. I will get more alarmed about this if I actually respect India's security apparatus.
The base is not just serve for spying but also supplying insurgents in Tibet which happened before. Remember that India still held tibetan separatist base in dhramasala.
This threat should not be underestimated.
 
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This "Ben-Gurion Canal" makes zero economic sense. Egypt recently expanded the Suez Canal doubling its capacity.
It will make sense if the west are able to block Chinese from Suez canal while they have alternative. This will make Chinese good price will get more costly especially in European market.
This is so stupid, that it makes THE LINE and Al-Mukaab look like good ideas.


Strait of Tiran is 12.3km wide at most, the beginning is even narrower with 3km, if either Egypt, Iran or KSA get any funny ideas, the strait will be blocked by mines.

Gigachad 9000 IQ move would be for China to let the West built this Canal for 80 Gazillion dollars with Chinese steel and concrete and then entice either Egypt, Iran or Saudis to block the Strait of Tiran. Maybe just built a Bridge across it, so that no container ships can cross anymore. (Same thing happened betwenn Croatia and Bosnia and Herzogovina and its port of Neum (not NEOM, that is THE LINE of KSA))

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Can't compare to Neom or Al mukaab. There are plans to build canal and refill dead sea from both red sea and Mediterranean anyways. I would rather compare to western routes of south north water transfer project in china which will make ben gurion canal a child play.
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The base is not just serve for spying but also supplying insurgents in Tibet which happened before. Remember that India still held tibetan separatist base in dhramasala.
This threat should not be underestimated.
India certainly does not need US help if it wants to supply insurgents in Tibet.

btw, this is actually quite the allegation. Do you have any evidence of this or are you theorizing that it could happen?

Either way, I don't see how this is a real threat. Chinese rule in Tibet is too firm to be trouble by a couple of separatists.
 

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India certainly does not need US help if it wants to supply insurgents in Tibet.
Actually they do. They needed the CIA help in the 1950s, they still needed the CIA help now, check out who still funds the Central Tibetan Administration (CTA).
btw, this is actually quite the allegation. Do you have any evidence of this or are you theorizing that it could happen?
Look up 1959 Tibetan armed rebellion, where do you think the insurgents got their supplies and instructions from? Across the border in India.
What do you think the CTA do? They are a separatist organization funded by India based in dhramasala.
Either way, I don't see how this is a real threat. Chinese rule in Tibet is too firm to be trouble by a couple of separatists.
You know China intentionally hides terrorist attacks within China right? You don't think Uighurs were all peaceful then suddenly China decided to reeducated them right? Similarly there were terrorist bombing attacks by Zang ethnicity groups less than 15 years ago, which are also kept hidden intentionally. Who do you think funds and support them, take a guess.

Have you noticed the western propaganda shifted from destabilizing Xinjiang to destabilizing Xizang again? Also an odd coincidence US and India are getting closer and signing more shared intelligence agreements.
 
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Actually they do. They needed the CIA help in the 1950s, they still needed the CIA help now, check out who still funds the Central Tibetan Administration (CTA).

Look up 1959 Tibetan armed rebellion, where do you think the insurgents got their supplies and instructions from? Across the border in India.
What do you think the CTA do? They are a separatist organization funded by India based in dhramasala.

You know China intentionally hides terrorist attacks within China right? You don't think Uighurs were all peaceful then suddenly China decided to reeducated them right? Similarly there were terrorist bombing attacks by Zang ethnicity groups less than 15 years ago, which are also kept hidden intentionally. Who do you think funds and support them, take a guess.

Have you noticed the western propaganda shifted from destabilizing Xinjiang to destabilizing Xizang again? Also an odd coincidence US and India are getting closer and signing more shared intelligence agreements.
What level of conspiracy theory is this? "intentionally hides". If anyone was injured or killed, it automatically makes it impossible to hide. And if the police preempted terror and clapped them before they could do something, there's obvious reasons why the government won't go around openly bragging about details, because it would clue future terrorists into how to avoid detection.

Only a small amount of convicted terrorists and terror supporters needed to be rehabilitated. A lot if not the most of these arrests were carried out by ethnic Uyghurs themselves.
 

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What level of conspiracy theory is this? "intentionally hides". If anyone was injured or killed, it automatically makes it impossible to hide. And if the police preempted terror and clapped them before they could do something, there's obvious reasons why the government won't go around openly bragging about details, because it would clue future terrorists into how to avoid detection.
It's not a conspiracy. I don't just mean the Chinese gov doesn't publish major articles on terrorist attacks, I mean the Chinese gov actively hides and censors discussions about terrorist attacks in China.
Only a small amount of convicted terrorists and terror supporters needed to be rehabilitated. A lot if not the most of these arrests were carried out by ethnic Uyghurs themselves.
I'm not saying reeducation was too large in scope or unjustified. I'm pointing out the separatist terrorism activities in China, e.g., Xinjiang was much more severe than what the official narrative is, same with Xizang.
 
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