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SlothmanAllen

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How many Flankers have Russia produced in 2022 vs China?
I don't have an exact number of Flanker variant production for China, but it wouldn't surprise me if China was producing around 150 fix-wing combat aircraft per year (and that could be at the low-end).

Just think about the fact that Lockheed routinely produces around 140-150 F-35's per year to put Russia production size into comparison.

I would imagine the US and China probably have similar fighter production output. Certainly in a realm of their own compared to Russia or any other nation.
 

gelgoog

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Russia also delivered 2 MiG-31BMs this year I think. They have loads of Su-25 in storage. The Soviets built 1,300 of them. It is probably going to be replaced with increased usage of drones in the long term. The Su-24MR is supposed to be replaced with either the Su-34NVO (which he calls Su-34M) with special reconnaissance pod or drones.

Like they say the biggest problem is pilots not combat aircraft.

Russia produced about 8 new SU-57s in 2022. China produced ~70 new J-20s in 2022.
China used a much lower risk airframe design. Su-57 is the first airframe to enter service optimized for 3D TVC nozzles. Su-57 has more control surfaces. Plus China has a bigger budget. It is as simple as that. Production will ramp up eventually once Su-57M design is approved for serial production and they upgrade the production facilities.
 

gelgoog

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Yes. Precision munitions. But to use those they need better reconnaissance and optimized kill chain. Otherwise it is useless to have them. They need more optical reconnaissance satellites, recon drones, etc and automated analysis of targets. They have the designs for the appropriate precision munitions like the Grom but it needs to be serial produced.
 

pmc

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Russia produced about 8 new SU-57s in 2022. China produced ~70 new J-20s in 2022.

Su-57 barely coming out of weopon testing and reliability phase so i will not count it yet. Su-57 has that unique engine sound so it is not just electronics, weopon testing but engines are different.
Russia produced upto 550 Su-30 TVC Indian version of Planes and that just one factory. so scaling up a production is not problem.
what has changed is factories are increasingly multifunctional, products are complex, future proof. Factory producing Su-57 also produce SSJ. factory produce Su-30SM also produce MS-21 not to mention producing parts in same city that can used in another factory product. this helps in maintaining security, redundancies and air defense.
you can see this IL-96 built around Soviet electronics of 1980s is taking off in basically zero visibility in a city with dense traffic. similar is SSJ operations to Middleast. dealing heat and range requirements when you may need to burn alot of fuel on tarmac and on takeoff in large complex transit airports. this called future proofing of a product to all conditions.
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Than there is Civil Aviation where production will be need to increase. behind every product IL-96 / Tu-214/Mi-26T2 whether built 2 per year or 20 per year there will thousands of skilled people that maintain the skill set. this is the cost of maintaining independent aviation industry.
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Soldier30

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Russian racing parachute system PTK-10SK aircraft on the example of the Su-30SM Air Force of the Republic of Belarus. The main supplier of parachutes for Russia, as well as for export to more than 30 countries of the world, is OJSC Solnechnogorsk Mechanical Plant. The PTK-10SK brake landing parachute system produced by the plant is installed on Russian SU-27 and SU-30 aircraft. Parachute landing systems reduce the length after the landing run of the aircraft by 1.5-2 times. The PTK-10SK parachute system has a mass of 23 kilograms and is used at an aircraft speed of no more than 300 km/h. As it turned out, the resource of braking parachutes is not large, about 50 applications. Parachute canopy area. 25 m2. The service life of the parachute is 15 years.

 

Gloire_bb

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I think this is model is practically at end of life. there is no evidence that larger ships can stay in ocean much longer than smaller ships. without replenishment that need to much larger. We are entering age of intercontinental cruise missiles and drones that fly thousand of kms. infact the larger ship height will work against it.
We entered this age in the late 1950s...
ships cannot launch drones that need long runways which will be increasingly needed for radar picket UAVs
There has been a specific type of ship for this purpose for a century now.
 

Soldier30

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Two Tu-160M strategic missile carriers have been handed over to Russia for flight tests. We are talking about the first aircraft mass-produced under the Tu-160M reproduction program, and the Tu-160 combat aircraft, which underwent a deep modernization. The weapons bays of the new Tu-160Ms house two drum launchers for 12 cruise missiles. In addition to the already existing Kh-101 missile and its nuclear counterpart Kh-102, the Tu-160M arsenal will include several types of medium and long-range missiles that are under development. The updated missile carriers are superior to their predecessors and the production of these combat aircraft will be increased. The Tu-160 is capable of overcoming 12 thousand kilometers without refueling, while developing a maximum speed of 2200 km/h.

 

Soldier30

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The crew of the Wagner PMC spoke about the strengths and weaknesses of the Russian T-90M Proryv tank. The T-90M "Breakthrough" tank is a deep modernization of the T-90 tank, the production and modernization of the T-90M "Breakthrough" tanks is growing every day.

 

pmc

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We entered this age in the late 1950s...
1950s missile? which cruise missile that can reliably manufactured and launched in thousands all striking with in meters of CEP across several thousand kms. this alone put alot of stress on protecting ports.
mass production of cruise missiles is becoming cheaper while mass production of ships compared to 1950s went on opposite.
There has been a specific type of ship for this purpose for a century now.
Drones generally have weak engines and huge wing spans. they are not suitable for any ship based operations if you really want drone with high altitude performance with sensors that can work as replacement of both orbital satellites and provide over the horizon targeting for ships. ship larger or smaller are constrained by radar horizon and operational speeds that basically static for over half century. while missile speeds are not static.
since its very hard to attract quality human capital. i will stay away from any capital ships that require more complement.

do you think this suitable for ships?


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