Thats one way to rug pull the western tech monopoly, wouldn't be surprised if some those western AI companies will just call it a quit because the super charged profits aren't there anymore. They will now have to compete globally with hungry and battle hardened Chinese firms.
Robotics and humanoid robotics & civilian drones discussion
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story of a company performing the large drone shows in shenzhen
Absolutely insane logic. If the Chinese are ahead then they can guard their secrets to prevent rivals from catching up AND prevent the West from raking in super profits AND rake in super profits themselves AND use it for intelligence and business data research AND turn it into geopolitical leverage.
Giving the tech away is one of the dumbest moves possible.
We know this can be done because that's exactly what the West does to become the most powerful. They didn't give away anything unless there was an angle. For example, android was open source for a while so other people did a lot of the work. Yet, the west controlled and weaponized the final platform. See usa using google to revoke android license to Huawei, partially bricking Huawei phones over night.
Before someone says "but China broke free". China is an exceptional nation with a huge army of geniuses. No other nation can do what China does. If it was any other country, their smart phone company would have died.
Deepseek gives away their AI tech.
Agibot gives away their robot tech.
Others don't even need to steal our ip. Chinese companies are giving it away for free.
This is ultra stupid.
PeoplesPoster
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it actually may be a good move, all the big western robotics companies are funded by VC and looking to boost their market cap as much as possible. With this release they are basically cutting the legs out from this, why should a VC invest into a western company when its equal or better is freely available, why would anyone be crazy enough to buy into their stocks. same applies for what Deepseek is doing to the AI industry.
Don't forget though that back in the early days, it was the loose and easy passing around of IP that led to the blossoming of the Pearl River Delta electronics industry. Knowledge and secrets flowed freely as company executives moved around and everything was a kind of open-source. If those early companies had closely guarded their secrets, would the economy there have developed in the same way?
Also it almost impossible to keep technological secrets for long anyway, so why bother? Just let them out in the open and let's see which side has the greater number of qualified people to take advantage of such knowledge.
If China is just gonna be a Diablo protagonist and become a demon in the end the what’s the point of anything.
Because this wrecks the business models of western competitors. Once the competitors are oxygen starved and dead in the water, its your choice whether to monetize, and what to monetize. Maybe it will be monetization of hardware only, since its only China that can produce to mass market prices
"The Chinese innovative flexible BCI device decoded Chinese speech for a brain injury patient in Shanghai, who controlled robotic hand and spelled words with thoughts."
Look at how many LLMs there are in the world, and how close they are in performance, how they're all within 1 year of reaching certain milestones. That should tell you one very important thing: LLMs are not where the money will be at. The big money is gonna be at those who can create useful services using LLMs, particularly those who can create an interoperable network of services that can form a walled garden for customers.
You have it backwards. Open sourcing is one of the most powerful way to monopolize in the software industry. Look at Linux and android, both of those OS are borne out of open source projects and now the majority of phones and servers run on Linux. By open sourcing the code you're basically opening up the software to crowd funded research rather than doing it on your own.
Somewhere along the line they must have realised that what they were doing is not so ground breaking that nobody else can replicate it.
if it is better than other implementations, suddenly all their competitors will have to face the difficult choice of dumping what they have already done to copy your software OR spend more RnD money just to reach the same level as a open source project. In fact to keep pace with a community project which will include elites from top universities all over the world, those competitors will need to devout vast resources.
Meanwhile, you retain full infrastructure and know-how on your project, you will retain competititive advantage over your opponents as it's a community project, far more devs are happy to use it due to familiarity. This is why so many devtools and engineering software is free for university students, familiarity now means market later.
There are also hardware versions of this. Tesla is so confident regarding their competitive advantage compared against incumbent legacy automaker they release all the patents for their EV tech. It did not help the competition.
Setting the standard is an incredibly powerful tool to carve out space in a new field.