Reason for China building WMDs

chinawhite said:

tphuang


**-As for DF-31, it's first flight was in 1992. -**

Its first flight was in 1990's But its development period started in 1978. like i said before the design was already finalized and the period after that was development.

Regards,

Chinawhite

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take a look, when do you think 092 started development? Check out that article I posted. I'm sure China is not that stupid, that it would develop a new generation icbm without thinking about possibly fitting it on its SSBN.

tphuang said:

here is another article:

As for JL-2, each JL-2 has 6 warheads I think? So, it can strike 96 targets, which increases the number of targets it can hit by 8 times.

Anyhow, this article says that 094 is probably going to be commissionned in 2007/2008, because it's likely to start sea trials this year. The real factor of its deployment depends on JL-2's release.

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huh? I thought the JL-2 carries a single 1 MT yield nuclear warhead or 3 MIRV war heads. Any way, I've found some info on the DF-41. it supossed to be a silo or rail/road mobile based launch system armed with a single 1MT or MIRV with 20, 90, or 150kt with a 3 staged solid fuel propulsion. the PRC are planing to produce about 96 of these missile (alot of money!).

@ tphuang


**-take a look, when do you think 092 started development? Check out that article I posted. I'm sure China is not that stupid, that it would develop a new generation icbm without thinking about possibly fitting it on its SSBN.-**

China had just launched a submainre capable of launching ICBM three years after development work started on the DF-31.

During that time china had more dire need for a mobile ICBM not a SLBM. after the soviet union collasped progress was stalled on the problems with the Type-92 were apparent so it was decide to build a submainre capable of firing the DF-31.

Unlike you original statement which i quote
"Remember, DF-31 was developed to be able to fit in a submarine tube, so obviously, it has shorter range."

It wasn't designed for a submainre but modifled to fit on a submainre

Regards,

chinawhite

the DF-31's range can be increased by converting it to a shiped based launch platform. China is believed to have placed these missiles in cargo ships, tankers etc. the presence of the missile can't be easily detected (because it is solid fueled) unless the ship is searched by the US Coasties. the DF-31 is actually converted from the JL-2 which started development in 1970. the JL-2 was converted to a land based launch platform after some operational requirement changes. Given the name DF-23, it was later designated as DF-31.

For the DF-31 I think the sub was designed to fit the missile not the other way around the 094 mae little progress until the mide 90s when the chinese leadership put America on the number one list

[@ renmin

**-the DF-31 is actually converted from the JL-2 which started development in 1970. -**

Renmin how is that possible?

The JL-1 started development in the 1970's.?

Regards,

chinawhite

chinawhite said:

[@ renmin

**-the DF-31 is actually converted from the JL-2 which started development in 1970. -**

Renmin how is that possible?

The JL-1 started development in the 1970's.?

Regards,

chinawhite

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actually, the JL-1 entered development in 1967. the JL-1's progress was slow due to difficulties mastering solid propellant technologies.it became operational in 1984. the JL-2 is a project to give the PRC a long range strike capability. the DF-31 followed the JL-2 shortly after it began.the JL-2 project started in the 1970s alone with a land based version known as DF-23 (DF-31) but were both redesigned in 1985 due to requirement changes and the DF-23 was later designated as DF-31. these changes occurred to take into account advancements in PRC warhead miniaturization technology.the Df-31 came out in 1999 while the JL-2 had little progress

renmin what are you basing these numbers on?

The JL-2 was designed as a SBLM what submainre was it suppose to go on? The chinese SBLM program was started in 1967 not the JL-1 missile

chinawhite said:

renmin what are you basing these numbers on?

The JL-2 was designed as a SBLM what submainre was it suppose to go on? The chinese SBLM program was started in 1967 not the JL-1 missile

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Calm down chinawhite. Im not making these numbers up. I have gotten this info from a book I bought from China which explained global military tech and some info from the internet but hay, im not here to fight a world war. you say the project was started in 1967 and that is your belief. I believe it is 1970 and I have not really known about type 94 so much. perhapes they were designing it at the same time. this thread is to hear everybody's opinions thank you chinawhite. I do not wish this thread to have any conflicts neither do I want anyone to get a warning. now lets please get back on topic and stop fighting over when the JL-2 project started. this is about China's WMDs not just JL-2.

renmin

renmin,

Your chinese and i wouldn't have a conflict with a chinese(unless they are annoying, which i dont find you). i thought i asked you pretty nicely where you got the numbers wrong. maye you interupted it wrong. anyway no problems here

This is my opinion because a SLBM is harder to develop than a mobile ICBM. china at the time was in more dire need for a ICBM than a SLBM thats what i am basing this on. Plus the fact that china at the time didn't have a Ballistic missile submarine to launch the missile.

Now lets look at the numbers.

1964>>Chinas fist A-bomb
Start of DF-4 program

1967>>Start of chinas solid fuel program
First H-bomb test

1970's>>Finish JL-1 test

At the time chian was facing threats from both the soviets and americans with threats to nuke china. China needed something as a deterant and those liquid power rockets wouldn't have lasted.


Regards,

chinawhite