Reason for China building WMDs

MIGleader

Banned Idiot
well, its pretty well known that the u.s likes to advocate the "china threat", making china look threatening to the world. but china;d nuclear abilities are only decent compared to russia or america. i think it would be a great way for america to obtain funding for its "missle shield".

heres a great article from sinodefence:
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Although the black power rocket was originally invented by the ancient Chinese, no indigenous effort in development of missiles took place until the 1950s, when the newly founded People’s Republic of China (PRC) began to build its defence industry under the assistance of the Soviet Union. In October 1956, China established its first missile research and development institute—the 5th Research Academy of the Ministry of National Defence, which was led by American-trained rocket scientist Qian Xue-Sen. In November 1960, China successfully launched its first indigenous ballistic missile. By the later 1960s, China had already deployed operational nuclear-armed DF-2A short-range surface-to-surface ballistic missile.

Although China’s strategic missile programme is the smallest among the top-five nuclear countries (behind US, Russia, UK and France), it is the oldest and most advanced in Asia. The Chinese nuclear delivery systems are mainly based ballistic missiles, plus a small number of sea-based systems (submarine-launched ballistic missiles, SLBMs). Chinese ballistic missiles range from short-range theatre missiles to intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs). Meanwhile China is replacing the outdated first-generation missile systems with the second-generation systems with improved accuracy and better mobility, and is developing land-/sea-based cruise missiles for both strategic and tactical purposes.

In addition to the strategic missile assets, China has also developed a range of short- and intermediate-range ballistic missiles carrying conventional warheads. These missiles provide a strategic capability without the political and practical constraints associated with nuclear-armed missiles. Carried on the missile transporter-erector-launcher (TEL), the missile system provide a survivable and effective conventional strike force, as will future procurement of conventionally armed ballistic missiles and land-attack cruise missiles. During the 1996 Taiwan Strait crisis, the People’s Liberation Army (PLA) demonstrated its conventional theatre missile capabilities to the whole world. At the same time, various tactical missile systems for air defence, anti-armour, air combat, and anti-ship purposes began to be equipped in significant numbers by all three services of the PLA.

China has extensive and well-established infrastructures to design, develop, test and manufacture all kinds of air-, land- and sea-based missile systems. Through a variety of indigenous development programmes and foreign purchases, the PLA is modernising its missile capabilities to support its operational aspiration of “fighting a local war under hi-tech conditions”. This effort has been supported by China’s growing science and technology capabilities, as well as its access to advanced missile and relevant technologies from Russia and Western countries.


china had "the bomb" by 1964, and the "bigger bomb" by 1967
how to deliver it?
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jason_chiu888

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renmin said:
Gollevainen is right. leave your temper behind jason chiu888. Let me advise you that I do not want any conflicts on this tread so lay off the insults. the PLA is not only for defence, it is also to retaileat against an attack by another country. Look im chinese so I know how China uses its military. Im not going to get off topic or go into politics so Im going to make this short. Defence is not dumb, its a matter of keeping peace. Attaking others for no good reason is dumb something that China will never do. There, end of story! Sorry, Gollevainen I got a bit off topic. Back on topic, like what MIgleader said, China developed nukes because at that time, the PRC and Soviet Union were braking up and at any moment, Russia could nuke or bomb China so the PRC had to have someway to retaileat against this threat.

hey ren min i am cool bro.... i didn't intentionally attack you. look... am chinese too.. so let's get back to topic then shall we? and i apologize if i have offended you in anyway coz i did not have any temper. maybe it was just misunderstanding.
yeah now the topic... please carry on....
 

renmin

Junior Member
houzi said:
hmm also.. if US DoD overstates PRC capabilities, they do this on purpose or accident? why say that just to be alarmist? for more military funding?
Indeed, America does not really feel to good about China possesing nuclear wepons. but China's current technology is still improving and trying to catch up. China really can not hit many US targets from mainland so to be realistic, if you look at it as China launching its weapons from mainland, it can not really hit many global targets. But that does not meen PRC is weak, It's nuclear power is right under US and Russia. In many ways the America of today can not really prevent a ICBM attack, for example, patriots, THAAD, and ABL are all designed to shot down MRBMs like SCUDs. But then again no one really has the guts to use nukes. Oh and thank you for understanding me jason_chiu888, politics is something no one should ever post on these types of forums because they always lead to conflicts and disaster. Oh and don't look at the USA as a bad country, relations are really improving these days.
 
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akinkhoo

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USA doesn't feel good about ANYONE with nuke. :nana: they prefer to keep their hyperpower status of being unrival and will :nono: ANYONE they like.

i never really believe in any formed of justification of the USA; see iraq :roll: their military budget is at least 6 times larger than the 2nd biggest. if USA is uneasy about someone spending 1/6 of their budget. shouldn't the world be terrified of USA? :( isn't the USA and UK modernizing their own nuke as well? why when they do it, it is okand when china does it, it is bad?


china happens to be doing :china: hence an easy excuse.
 
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renmin

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akinkhoo said:
USA doesn't feel good about ANYONE with nuke. :nana: they prefer to keep their hyperpower status of being unrival and will :nono: ANYONE they like.

i never really believe in any formed of justification of the USA; see iraq :roll: their military budget is at least 6 times larger than the 2nd biggest. if USA is uneasy about someone spending 1/6 of their budget. shouldn't the world be terrified of USA? :( isn't the USA and UK modernizing their own nuke as well? why when they do it, it is okand when china does it, it is bad?

they are just using political excuses to rally support of their own internal problem like an oversized military budget. they need to consistantly create enemies to justify spending the money on military for maintaining their world dominance.

china happens to be doing :china: hence an easy excuse.
Remember, the USA and UK are allies, I bet America dosent feel too good about UK possesing nukes either but they do not want to threaten relationship so they just allow it. On the other hand, America is not allies with Russia or China so they can oppose their posesion of nukes.
 
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BLUEJACKET

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The reason is as old as the Cold War itself: Mutually Assured Destruction (MAD). If a victim of the 1st strike can still inflict unacceptable level of damage in return than the arsenal it posseses is worth having (even if never used for actual retaliation).
The purpose of SSBN force is to have credible 2nd strike capability. But unless the PLAN deploys an Ohio class-like top-of-the line sub that can pass undetected through the straits (and/or secures permament basing on Russian Kamchatka peninsula, which is unlikely at this point) & patrol in the open ocean, in the event of the 1st nuclear and/or large scale conventional strike on China her SSBNs will be disabled/destoyed - even those on patrol in the seas surrounding the PRC. If not enemy SSNs like Virginia/Seawolf/LA classes, a few nukes detonated in those closed seas will knock them out. So, for the forseeble future PLAN will not be able provide a credible 2nd strike capability with its SSBNs.
For more in depth discussion on this very topic, please see my posts & post your replies on this tread-

http://www.sinodefenceforum.com/showthread.php?t=2499

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