Real life thread

[PanAsian]

Being a city person myself I've never gone hunting though I would love to try it if I had the chance.

How come so many of the wolf kills are left uneaten? I thought animals tend to kill for food?

 

[TerraN_EmpirE]

A individual can only eat so much in one sitting, And we can only see the outside not the inner. once a opening is made the animals would take turns eating from the same wound. Additionally they may have been interrupted. The vast majority of the meal is not taken by the killer but scavengers who come after and can deal with rotting carrion.
It's a bit like politics really One makes the deal everyone else picks the bones.

 

[Jeff Head]

A individual can only eat so much in one sitting, And we can only see the outside not the inner. once a opening is made the animals would take turns eating from the same wound. Additionally they may have been interrupted. The vast majority of the meal is not taken by the killer but scavengers who come after and can deal with rotting carrion.
It's a bit like politics really One makes the deal everyone else picks the bones.

Sorry, not so with wolves.

They hunt and kill in packs. At certain times of the year, individuals or a pair will make kills. But most kills are made by packs, and there are many animals involved with taking down their larger prey...whether they be Elk, Deer, the occassional Moose, cows, sheep or other domestic animals like dogs.

If they wanted to eat, they would leave only bones and some hide.

I have seen wolf kills, and many times they leave carcasses all over the place, without eating them. When they are hungry...they eat. But they also make a lot of kills without feeding at all.

I imagine it is a pack thing...some sort of a wolf social thing or pecking order...but that is what they do, and one of the reasons they are such a problem. Some say they enjoy the killing. I cannot make such a determination. I just know that they do it.

Again, I have seen their kills and know exactly what I am talking about.

 

[mr.bean]

Here in Idaho, and throughout the Intermountain West, progressive liberals and environmentalists under Clinton got Canadian Wolves introduced into our states in the mid 1990s. Supposedly to "re-introduce" wolves here, even though they were not the same species as the Rocky Mountain wolves who had been here before.

There populations, as many farmers and ranchers warned, grew far more rapidly than predicted, and they immediately began ranging far from where they were supposedly going to stay.

It got so bad, that now in Idaho, Wyoming, and other places they now have wolf hunts to try and control the populations and they have been delisted in those states as protected species.

It is no wonder our forefathers eradicated them.

That is one aspect of life out here. I do not go into the mountains without a gun and a dog.

There are not as many of them...but the Cougars here are even larger. One was killed about 50 miles from here that weighed almost 200 lbs.

Earlier this year in Boise, the state capitol and a city of about 200,000, (about 30 miles from where I live) they had to kill one in the city that had come down out of the mountains and had killed several pet dogs.

oh my god those wolves looks frightening. I would never let children play out in those woods without adult supervision. only when you're out in the woods, in the middle of nowhere you will learn to appreciate a good rifle or a 12 gauge shotgun

 

[siegecrossbow]

Sorry, not so with wolves.

They hunt and kill in packs. At certain times of the year, individuals or a pair will make kills. But most kills are made by packs, and there are many animals involved with taking down their larger prey...whether they be Elk, Deer, the occassional Moose, cows, sheep or other domestic animals like dogs.

If they wanted to eat, they would leave only bones and some hide.

I have seen wolf kills, and many times they leave carcasses all over the place, without eating them. When they are hungry...they eat. But they also make a lot of kills without feeding at all.

I imagine it is a pack thing...some sort of a wolf social thing or pecking order...but that is what they do, and one of the reasons they are such a problem. Some say they enjoy the killing. I cannot make such a determination. I just know that they do it.

Again, I have seen their kills and know exactly what I am talking about.

Puma and leopards also do this (house cats are actually the worst offenders). There was this recorded incident in Arizona where a single puma took down 15-20 ostriches, which are known to maim lions with their kicks, and left them uneaten. I think it has something to do with instinct. Pretty sure this is their version of recreation.

 

[airsuperiority]

Puma and leopards also do this (house cats are actually the worst offenders). There was this recorded incident in Arizona where a single puma took down 15-20 ostriches, which are known to maim lions with their kicks, and left them uneaten. I think it has something to do with instinct. Pretty sure this is their version of recreation.

So they wake up one morning thinking they wanna kill 20 giant ugly birds?

 

[kwaigonegin]

oh my god those wolves looks frightening. I would never let children play out in those woods without adult supervision. only when you're out in the woods, in the middle of nowhere you will learn to appreciate a good rifle or a 12 gauge shotgun

Just don't go out with an AR or other .223 type rounds. I say 30-06 or a winchester 308 is good for defense against most wild animals unless it's a charging Grizzly then you're totally screwed unless you have a grenade launcher or a minigun or can run like Hussain Bolt.

 

[Jeff Head]

Just don't go out with an AR or other .223 type rounds. I say 30-06 or a winchester 308 is good for defense against most wild animals unless it's a charging Grizzly then you're totally screwed unless you have a grenade launcher or a minigun or can run like Hussain Bolt.

I use a .308. It works very well for wolves, coyotes, cougars, etc. It aslo will work for Grizz. Better for a Grizz is a 7mm mag, .30-06, etc. which have much higher muzzle velocities and with the right type of bullet, have plenty of stopping power for a Grizzly Bear.

They have Bear hunting licenses you can get througout the Intermountain west...Montana, Idaho, Wyoming, etc. and people hunt them every year.

You rarely hear of a hunter being mauled or killed by a bear...it is usually the unprepared camper who is not armed for the encounter, and who do things that attract bears to their camps...or where they foolishly try and feed them or something of this nature.

 

[Air Force Brat]

Just don't go out with an AR or other .223 type rounds. I say 30-06 or a winchester 308 is good for defense against most wild animals unless it's a charging Grizzly then you're totally screwed unless you have a grenade launcher or a minigun or can run like Hussain Bolt.

Actually although I wouldn't take on a griz or a brown with a bolt action .223, I wouldn't mind with my AR, I would likely choose the red dot sight up close and personal, there are some outstanding heavy bullets that would be sufficiently penetrative, and I am much more accurate and likely to get off a second or third shot with my AR. With a bolt rifle I would prefer to start with a larger magnum caliber, or even a shotgun slug???? The foster slug is an outstanding stopper if accurately placed at ranges of 10 to 100 yards...

I hunt whitetail with an iron sighted N frame Smith and Wesson, I would much rather not hunt a griz or brown with a handgun! brat

 

[mr.bean]

Actually although I wouldn't take on a griz or a brown with a bolt action .223, I wouldn't mind with my AR, I would likely choose the red dot sight up close and personal, there are some outstanding heavy bullets that would be sufficiently penetrative, and I am much more accurate and likely to get off a second or third shot with my AR. With a bolt rifle I would prefer to start with a larger magnum caliber, or even a shotgun slug???? The foster slug is an outstanding stopper if accurately placed at ranges of 10 to 100 yards...

I hunt whitetail with an iron sighted N frame Smith and Wesson, I would much rather not hunt a griz or brown with a handgun! brat

here's the ultimate poor man's protection against predators in the deep woods. a mosin nagant bolt action rifle with a crate of surpluss 7.62x54 ammo. that will stop a grizzly and wont break your wallet. hell there so cheap get 2 mosin nagants, one for your buddy to watch your back.