QBZ-191 service rifle family

Wrought

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How? You said you'd rather have boots than a rifle on the battlefield. So that between a rifle and a pair of boots, rifle is optional to you.

Preferable is not the same as optional. Again, simply because one value is lower than another value does not make it zero.
 

by78

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Preferable is not the same as optional. Again, simply because one value is lower than another value does not make it zero.

No, you said you'd choose boots over a rifle, meaning that to you, rifle is optional relative to a pair of boots, which you deem as a necessity. Of course I know you'd rather have both, but you said what you said. I'm not judging, I'm merely asking you to clarify.
 

Wrought

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No, you said you'd choose boots over a rifle, meaning that to you, rifle is optional relative to a pair of boots, which you deem as a necessity. Of course I know you'd rather have both, but you said what you said. I'm not judging, I'm merely asking you to clarify.

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

I would choose water over food, if I had to choose, but that does not mean food is optional. It is less necessary, but it is still necessary.
 

totenchan

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To be clear, being barefoot in a gun fight is not as big of a problem as your sight/LAM not holding zero because your polymer rail deformed from long-term use or barrel heat.
How many times have you seen normal PLAGF using a LAM?
Yes. I can get a pair of shoes (any shoes) more readily than I can find a rifle. Break into a shoe store and get a pair, or threaten a civilian to get him to give up his shoes.
And if you're fighting in the middle of the the mountains? Or in deep jungle? If we are entertaining hypotheticals, what if the polymer handgrip is engineered to be rigid enough to hold a zero even under thermal stress?
 

by78

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How many times have you seen normal PLAGF using a LAM?

How many times have you seen a PLAAF fighter dropping a small-diamter LGB? Can you guarantee me that in the next 25 years (QBZ-191/192s are expected to be the main service rifles for that timespan) that LAM won't be issued in significant numbers?

If we are entertaining hypotheticals, what if the polymer handgrip is engineered to be rigid enough to hold a zero even under thermal stress?

We aren't entertaining hypotheticals.
 
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by78

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You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

I would choose water over food, if I had to choose, but that does not mean food is optional. It is less necessary, but it is still necessary.

Hmmm, no. In the context of our back-and-forth, between a pair of boots and a rifle, you clearly stated that a rifle is optional, just as water is optional compared to food.
 
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