QBZ-191 service rifle family

taxiya

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So more spring inside the buffer? In concept similar to the buffer below, but with regular recoil spring instead of captured one?

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Further thinking:

Conventional buffer device as illustrated in the top digram has a inertial column that is replaced by the fluid (hydrolic) piston in the new design. The springs in both designs are merely to return the whole set back to its nutural position for the next action, they are not the component to absord the recoil.

So, this new design is very different from the past. It is hydrolic piston replacing inertial column.
 

Dragon of War

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That'd be a waste of resources, especially when QBZ-191 is still phasing in.

Type 56 has the chromed version because it has long been retired from combat use (though a sizable stockpile still in storage).

The real question is, since a lot of older firearms before the wide spread use of plastics and polymer would look in a ceremonial setting. Wood has a grandiose look to it and can vary dependent on type of wood you use but can always be given a good coat of shine thanks to polish. How would a plastic weapon coated weapon be given this same ceremonial shine as predecessor weapons made of wood and steel as apposed to plastic and steel. Are there substances or manufacturing techniques to make plastic look ceremonial presentable and shine.
 

MwRYum

Major
The real question is, since a lot of older firearms before the wide spread use of plastics and polymer would look in a ceremonial setting. Wood has a grandiose look to it and can vary dependent on type of wood you use but can always be given a good coat of shine thanks to polish. How would a plastic weapon coated weapon be given this same ceremonial shine as predecessor weapons made of wood and steel as apposed to plastic and steel. Are there substances or manufacturing techniques to make plastic look ceremonial presentable and shine.
For the sake of argument...well, them Brits definitely tried:
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As an old-school type such as I, I'd say they better off set aside a batch of AR-15/M-16 (we know the British Army use them, in small batches at least) for such purpose. Still, a batch of Lee Enfield Mk4 set aside for ceremonial purpose isn't too much of a spending, no?

So back to the topic:
Since China has a good stockpile of Type 56 SKS and such, there's just no need to bring QBZ-191 into the equation at this time.
 

Dragon of War

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For the sake of argument...well, them Brits definitely tried:

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As an old-school type such as I, I'd say they better off set aside a batch of AR-15/M-16 (we know the British Army use them, in small batches at least) for such purpose. Still, a batch of Lee Enfield Mk4 set aside for ceremonial purpose isn't too much of a spending, no?

So back to the topic:
Since China has a good stockpile of Type 56 SKS and such, there's just no need to bring QBZ-191 into the equation at this time.

It's different for the british royal guard since they're still active duty guards protecting the king, those rifles aren't solely for ceremony but to be used in case of a breach of security. If we make a translation of this to the PLA it would would probably equate to them using standard issue QBZ95s. And SA80 is still in used by royal guard, territorial forces, maritime forces and regular forces albeit theirs is updated with HK upgrades and now I believe SiG sauer upgrade kit.

In regards to the QBZ191 is doesn't have to replace the brilliant Type 56, I believe it looks very appropriate for ceremonial purposes akin to the US using the M1 Garand. And it's true, 191 is still going through testing phase and until that is at-least completed we shouldn't have a ceremonial 191 as of yet even if it was just 1 of 1 as a proof of concept.
 
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