Psychology Of Chinese Social Issues - Scholarly Study

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solarz

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A remarkable social phenomenon in China is how people love following trends. In the wake of the Fukushima disaster, an online rumour that salt could protect from radiation resulted in huge line-ups for salt and even a market shortage. Likewise, a single book touting the benefits of the mung bean once caused the price of those beans to rise by 2000%!

A more recent phenomenon is the song 你是我的小苹果 (you are my little apple). Literally every single primary school and kindergarten is playing and teaching kids to dance to this song. Every. Single. One.

It is really amazing if you think about it. A nation of 1.4 billion people who are ready to move culturally like a school of fish!
 

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First time checking this thread out and I notice a whole lot of political and religious discussions.

I will make this easy, cut out the political and religious discussions or this thread will be closed down.
 

AssassinsMace

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I'm watching a TV program here in the US that's criticizing an American judge on the Miss Universe pageant last night who let it be known through social media that he voted for the winner, Miss Columbia, and not Miss USA, the runner-up. Given that these contests are already rigged just by having most of the judges coming from the US and then other Western countries, it tells you something more when it's expected the American judges vote for the US only. Now why in the hell is China participating in a fake but common example of an international consensus. Miss China will never be a finalist. How do I know this because it's funny how one of the finalists happened to be Miss Ukraine. Miss Russia wasn't up there. We've had this discussion years ago about how China's standard of beauty is not the same as the Western standard of beauty so until China decides to pick a "Westernized" Chinese woman, don't ever expect Miss China to ever be a finalist. Then on top of that China would have to be in good standing according to a elite group of people that has nothing to do with what a beauty contest is all about. If I had my way, China should never participate in these kinds of superficial trappings in the first place. But there are Chinese that seem to be begging for punishment... or they're just a witch. Yeah they want to participate in order to feel like a part of the their community but they won't go the distance for what it takes at the same time.
 

broadsword

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A remarkable social phenomenon in China is how people love following trends. In the wake of the Fukushima disaster, an online rumour that salt could protect from radiation resulted in huge line-ups for salt and even a market shortage. Likewise, a single book touting the benefits of the mung bean once caused the price of those beans to rise by 2000%!

A more recent phenomenon is the song 你是我的小苹果 (you are my little apple). Literally every single primary school and kindergarten is playing and teaching kids to dance to this song. Every. Single. One.

It is really amazing if you think about it. A nation of 1.4 billion people who are ready to move culturally like a school of fish!


The kind of trends the Chinese follow show up their gullibility as Third World nation people. They will take another generation or two to come of age. Unlawful activities committed in China were prevalent in Malaysia and Singapore in the 60s and 70s, like adulterating food, food contamination and selling of condemned pork. We did not have that many traffic signs and rules in those days. Many people were uncouth and the older generation was a disgrace to their own countries when they holidayed in foreign countries.

Developed countries have sheeple too. A curious craze made this inventor a multi-millionaire, in Sterling Pound:
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broadsword

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...Now why in the hell is China participating in a fake but common example of an international consensus. Miss China will never be a finalist. How do I know this because it's funny how one of the finalists happened to be Miss Ukraine. Miss Russia wasn't up there. We've had this discussion years ago about how China's standard of beauty is not the same as the Western standard of beauty so until China decides to pick a "Westernized" Chinese woman, don't ever expect Miss China to ever be a finalist. Then on top of that China would have to be in good standing according to a elite group of people that has nothing to do with what a beauty contest is all about. If I had my way, China should never participate in these kinds of superficial trappings in the first place.


Beauty contests are always rigged in favor of the host country, from my observation. So the host participant tends to be in the final ten, even if not among the winners. There was a contest held in Ordos and the winner was a Chinese and it provoked any outcry of bias judging. But the winner of Miss World 2007, Zhang Zilin, was a worthy winner IMO, regardless of the venue being held in Sanya, China.

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AssassinsMace

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The 2007 contest was the reason of the discussion before that I mentioned. That was the first time China did not follow their standard Chinese taste of beauty which tends to be thin small shapes while those that win are more statuesque. I saw the Miss China contestant last night. The introduction of all contestants during the parade of nations had many countries sex-up their costumes. Of course Miss China's was most likely a real costume and I don't ever see Miss China dressed in a sexed-up version meaning another reason they will never win because the handlers aren't in tune with Western popular culture of which the Miss Universe contest is a part of. Then on top of that the Miss Universe contest is owned by Donald Trump, known womanizer. Also he doesn't like China. So why do these dumb Chinese in whatever bureau in the communist government think it's a good idea for China to participate?
 

solarz

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The 2007 contest was the reason of the discussion before that I mentioned. That was the first time China did not follow their standard Chinese taste of beauty which tends to be thin small shapes while those that win are more statuesque. I saw the Miss China contestant last night. The introduction of all contestants during the parade of nations had many countries sex-up their costumes. Of course Miss China's was most likely a real costume and I don't ever see Miss China dressed in a sexed-up version meaning another reason they will never win because the handlers aren't in tune with Western popular culture of which the Miss Universe contest is a part of. Then on top of that the Miss Universe contest is owned by Donald Trump, known womanizer. Also he doesn't like China. So why do these dumb Chinese in whatever bureau in the communist government think it's a good idea for China to participate?

I highly doubt the Chinese government cares about beauty pageants. The contestants enter for personal reason. Keep in mind that even if one doesn't win, participation itself is enough to grant quite a bit of recognition.
 

AssassinsMace

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One of the outside criticisms of the Chinese end of participating in these contests is that the government does pick who represents China at these contests. They don't go through a system like in the US where the final representative for the whole country has already gone through many other regional contests and won before getting to where they're at. If someone in the government didn't pick, I bet we would hear about a lot of fighting by different parties of who gets to go to these contests to represent China. You may even hear about two or more Miss China contestants showing up at Miss Universe.
 
Actually let's be open-mind about it. We should encourage everyone to discuss safely and feel comfortable since we're all here to share ideas, not spit at one another. Nationalities shouldn't matter, as as long as it's good idea and sincere, we can all get something out of it at the end of the day.
A remarkable social phenomenon in China is how people love following trends. In the wake of the Fukushima disaster, an online rumour that salt could protect from radiation resulted in huge line-ups for salt and even a market shortage. Likewise, a single book touting the benefits of the mung bean once caused the price of those beans to rise by 2000%!

A more recent phenomenon is the song 你是我的小苹果 (you are my little apple). Literally every single primary school and kindergarten is playing and teaching kids to dance to this song. Every. Single. One.

It is really amazing if you think about it. A nation of 1.4 billion people who are ready to move culturally like a school of fish!
LOL oh yes this one. Technically it's not just China, but also some in HK(not as many) also did the same, although generally restricted to the older and less educated generation. I find it really ridiculous and funny, but also same time understand it's all the influence from mass panic. I remember there's this one dude who bought like $200,000 worth of salt. And yes I've heard of the song you're talking about. Isn't it kinda like "you're my sunshine" or something?

Regardless, sometimes I think these phenomenon are good as it can "bond" people for something common, and if it goes cross-borders, it's even better as people can find common topics and enjoy something equally. It's kinda like the Gangnam style flash mob, ALS ice bucket water challenge( I still owe my girl a video), where they go viral. This is also why usually talking about food is good as long as you avoid talking about pork in front of Muslims, beef in front of Hindu, gluten in front of glutenn-free people, meat in front of vegans...
 
I'm watching a TV program here in the US that's criticizing an American judge on the Miss Universe pageant last night who let it be known through social media that he voted for the winner, Miss Columbia, and not Miss USA, the runner-up. Given that these contests are already rigged just by having most of the judges coming from the US and then other Western countries, it tells you something more when it's expected the American judges vote for the US only. Now why in the hell is China participating in a fake but common example of an international consensus. Miss China will never be a finalist. How do I know this because it's funny how one of the finalists happened to be Miss Ukraine. Miss Russia wasn't up there. We've had this discussion years ago about how China's standard of beauty is not the same as the Western standard of beauty so until China decides to pick a "Westernized" Chinese woman, don't ever expect Miss China to ever be a finalist. Then on top of that China would have to be in good standing according to a elite group of people that has nothing to do with what a beauty contest is all about. If I had my way, China should never participate in these kinds of superficial trappings in the first place. But there are Chinese that seem to be begging for punishment... or they're just a witch. Yeah they want to participate in order to feel like a part of the their community but they won't go the distance for what it takes at the same time.
1000% with you on this one. Those Ms Universe beauty pageants are just ...something I can't agree to. First of all, these pageants are sexist and dehumanizing to women. Second, they all have to fit in that Western definition of beauty which is very cultural-relative at best, and therefore shan't even be applied to cultures beyond which don't see beauty in the same manner. Also, the reps from Asia had makeup and styles that fit in what White-approved Asian-American preferences would be(slant eyes and what not), but we all know actual Asian-Americans and Asian-based women beauty standards are nothing like those. Instead of Lucy Liu style they like bigger eyes, taller nose to the likes of Li, Fan Bing Bing, Chiling, etc. In fact even the new generation Asians are now increasingly leaning towards Asian-styles more. And of course the need for necessarily picking USA is dumb too.
 
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