PRC President Hu Jintao visits the USA

bladerunner

Banned Idiot
=bd popeye;137517]Now for some photos of PRC President Hu Hintao visit...

Some questions about those photoes

1/ The second photo looks like it was stage managed but whose that Caucasian woman behind him?
Actually Ive seen a few shots with what appears to be a Caucasian women amongst the Chinese party.Where's Mrs Hu?

2/Just going on the photos provided, it appears that the State Dinner was a Tux and bow Tie affair but know one has told Pres Hu. He appears to have rocked on up wearing the suit he put on to go to work in the morning. (in photo5, we have the Mayor of S.F in a Tux and in photo 2 the security personnel has got a bow tie, if not a tux.)

AS far as the add goes I would have to agree with Mr T. I hope they did a better job with promos in New York














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Mr T

Senior Member
If it were me, I probably would try to put images of US and China working side by side, such as issues on terrorism, some peacekeeping missions, pandas, some photos of athletes from both sides shaking hands at the Olympics

Exactly, it should have been about how the US and China can get along. Though nothing military-based, an economic focus. Talking about Chinese investment in the US, thanking the US for previous investment in China/charity work, or something.

China is not the only nation that launches PR campaign in foreign nations.

The next time a thread like this comes up, feel free to criticise a campaign that tries to reach out to Chinese people if it's bad.

PR and marketing campaigns are propaganda. Period.

Cheesy propaganda isn't good. It needs to be more slick and relevent to the target audience.

It is not in your place to say what the Chinese people around the world would react to these ads.

It's my place as much as it is anyone's on this forum. Are you suggesting they wouldn't like it?

However, I see it as a greeting/introduction, in the sense of: "Hello Americans, we are the Chinese, and this is what the Chinese people are like."

It's not about "selling China".

Americans, as far as I understand, are aware that there are famous Chinese actors and athletes. They'll assume that there are farmers, supermodels, academics and businessmen who wear tailored suits. There have been countless news articles on TV and in the print media over the last decade about how China has been moving forward.

As I see it, this was an ad trying to sell China as a country that Americans should feel good about/friendly towards. I can't see how it will have been successful even on the level it could reasonably have been expected to be successful.

Perhaps we'll just have to agree to disagree.
 
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bd popeye

The Last Jedi
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1/ The second photo looks like it was stage managed but whose that Caucasian woman behind him?
Actually Ive seen a few shots with what appears to be a Caucasian women amongst the Chinese party.Where's Mrs Hu?

Dunno know where Mrs Hu is. Probably in China. I also don't know who that Caucasian woman is. She's way too skinny.

Here's a link to tons of photos of Hu's visit..

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nameless

Junior Member
You're still not listening. If you want to improve how you're seen in a country, you design your PR campaign so that it will be responded to well. You don't decide what people should like, you find out what they do like. I would be surprised if this was presented to focus groups before it went out.
Its not about what they like or dont like, its about what they should understand about the world, only then can there be more constructive relationships.

So you're now not accusing me of being a know-it-all because I posted some critical links, but because I expressed an opinion on the attitudes of Americans and Europeans?

You know I wasn't saying "I can predict with 100% certainty that.........", I was expressing opinion on how it would be viewed based on my experiences.
Nothing wrong with your personal experience, but its certainly not the same as the whole of American and Europe. Its a huge difference.

Cheesy propaganda isn't good. It needs to be more slick and relevent to the target audience.
I doubt the target audience is you.

Then I fail to see why you had such a problem with me expressing an opinion that it would be a negative response.
Except when you are speaking for both American and Europe.

It's my place as much as it is anyone's on this forum. Are you suggesting they wouldn't like it?
You can express your opinion, but please dont pretend that you know how everyone including American, European and Chinese would react.

Exactly, it should have been about how the US and China can get along. Though nothing military-based, an economic focus. Talking about Chinese investment in the US, thanking the US for previous investment in China/charity work, or something.
Chinese investments are viewed with suspicion, with the whole "they are taking over" mindset by certain people. It wont work as well with the current political climate.
 
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AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
Mrs. Hu probably stayed home because Michelle didn't go to the state dinner China had for Obama over a year ago which American pundits at the time said was a message to China.
 

KYli

Brigadier
The next time a thread like this comes up, feel free to criticise a campaign that tries to reach out to Chinese people if it's bad.
I usually just disregard them because it is irrelevant.

Cheesy propaganda isn't good. It needs to be more slick and relevent to the target audience.
So you know Americans likely reactions to these ads. Even if it is done well, the likely and more prevalent reactions are "Don't care".

From bd popeye
Most Americans only care about what is going on in the USA. And more specifically what is going on in there home town. And the only thing most Americans know about China is that the US owes them tons of money.
This is the same conclusion I have reached, and we are in America but you are not.

It's my place as much as it is anyone's on this forum. Are you suggesting they wouldn't like it?
It is not in your place to comment on something you don't know, but it doesn't mean you can't comment. You can say whatever you want, but if you can't back up what you say then I suggest you don't say it. Since you can't possibly know what are the Chinese likely reactions, it is better not to generalize all of them in your narrow way of thinking.
 

Red Moon

Junior Member
I usually just disregard them because it is irrelevant.

I agree. From the youtube thing (which is obviously only a sample) this looks pretty bland, actually. Nothing from the description given by jantxv (who says he saw it) actually changes my impression. So why does someone want to make a friggin add into a topic of discussion?
 

AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
I agree. From the youtube thing (which is obviously only a sample) this looks pretty bland, actually. Nothing from the description given by jantxv (who says he saw it) actually changes my impression. So why does someone want to make a friggin add into a topic of discussion?

Same reason why over at the key forum they're trying to make a conspiracy over the paint job on the J-20.
 

bladerunner

Banned Idiot
Well, since Mrs Hu is in China, they've provided a ... oh, well. But she is way too skinny!

Anyway Im using it as photographic evidence when explainining to my wife that it is customary in Chinese culture for the wife to stay behind to look after the home and the husband gets to go out;)
 
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