possible confrontation scenario with the US

renmin

Junior Member
Sounds like Robinson likes to right about naval stories. Well it seems to me the seals sent to rescue the American sailors are going to suceed since this is an American book then of course Robinson is going to make the Chinese lose, hey just a guess. oh and thanks Raven
 

darth sidious

Banned Idiot
in the cold war something similar to this happened a Russian victory class was caught in the cable. but the incident to place near cuba the sub was soon freed by a rescue craft and the russian got to keep the cable
 

RavenWing278

Junior Member
renmin said:
Sounds like Robinson likes to right about naval stories. Well it seems to me the seals sent to rescue the American sailors are going to suceed since this is an American book then of course Robinson is going to make the Chinese lose, hey just a guess. oh and thanks Raven

no problem, and your right the chinese did lose in the end, with the sinking of the 167 and a couple of coastal patrol ships and the chinese admiral of the south sea fleet lost his job n got court marshalled for gross incompetence..

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but to me it seemed like a fair trade : a US SSBN that cost a billion$ to research and another billion $ to construct for the 167 and 1 coastal patrol ship, 100+ chinese naval guards+ a kilo sub
 

PiSigma

"the engineer"
reverse engineering would only be one of the things they got to worry about.. the more important thing USN going to worry about is now that china knows how to detect their super advanced subs... and going to use it against them. which make all their subs obsolete against china.. removing a huge force that the USN can use against china. also basically wasting billions of dollars. since china can sell that information to other countries. USN will need to spend billions more to design and build new designs that are radically different.
 

Yimmy

New Member
Small arms fire would not be able to preent the Captain scuttling the boat, neither would the cable.

All small arms fire would achieve, would be killing the men abandoning the boat, which would result in international condemnation against China.
 

renmin

Junior Member
RavenWing278 said:
no problem, and your right the chinese did lose in the end, with the sinking of the 167 and a couple of coastal patrol ships and the chinese admiral of the south sea fleet lost his job n got court marshalled for gross incompetence..

-.-"
but to me it seemed like a fair trade : a US SSBN that cost a billion$ to research and another billion $ to construct for the 167 and 1 coastal patrol ship, 100+ chinese naval guards+ a kilo sub
Ha! I new it Americans always win (seems kind of unfair). Anyways it seems kind of unpracticle that the sub can become intangled in those cables because of the size and weight. Second the Sea wolf would have been probably too heavy to be towed. Next, in realty, the Americans would not send Seals right away into Chinese terrotory without nigotiations first with the Chinese government. It just seems unpracticle. I doubt the Chinese in real life would actually inprison the sailors, they would probably send them back instead since this is not a war.
 

MIGleader

Banned Idiot
a an attempt to sink the subamrine by scuttling might drag 167 down with it, so the naval guards on 167 are perfectly justified in shooting any people comming outside. most like a larger replenishment.tow vessel would be accompanying 167, so it could grab on to the sub to tow it away.
 

Yimmy

New Member
Migleader, how on Earth do you come to the conclusion that it is acceptable for the crew of the destroyer to shoot any Americans leaving the submarine?

This is an American submarine tangled in the array of a Chinese destroyer, in international waters. Neither side has the right to open fire on the other, as neither side are conducting a hostile act - they have simply colided.
 

MIGleader

Banned Idiot
if the two ships are entangled, then attempting to scuttle one ship puts the other ship in dager of sinking with it. do you think the chinese will let america scuttle the seawolf and take 167 and her crew with it? the crew of 167 have the right to protect their ship from sinking.
 

Yimmy

New Member
Indeed they do - however shooting men in life boats does not save their own ship.

In such an event, I assume the destroyer would have to cut their array free. Whatever happened, it would be a very delicate situation, which could easily be escalated.
 
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