PLAN Zubr Large Air Cushion Landing Craft

delft

Brigadier
With many loads the load is connected to the semi-submersible ship by welding. They won't use that method with Zubers. How are they tied to the ship?
 

plawolf

Lieutenant General
With many loads the load is connected to the semi-submersible ship by welding. They won't use that method with Zubers. How are they tied to the ship?

They could weld some heavy duty hoops (not sure what the technical term is) onto the Zubrs and tied them down with cable to the ship's deck.

They do this to allow cranes to lift capsized ships, so they would be plenty strong to keep the Zubrs anchored even in the roughest weather.
 

plawolf

Lieutenant General
They might be able to fit two of them straight on...it seems to me that there might just be room. Like this:

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Otherwise, canted at an angle and facing one another.

I was thinking that as well, they surely factored in the size of the Zubrs when they were designing the lifter. But maybe not dead on straight like that, as that would likely leave them very little clearance to turn (unless the Zubr has the ability to turn on the spot?).

Maybe they could pack them like that for straight forward transport between bases/ports with heavy lift cranes.

For operational deployment where the Zubrs might need to deploy directly from the lifter, they will probably want to cant them at a slight angle.
 

delft

Brigadier
I was thinking that as well, they surely factored in the size of the Zubrs when they were designing the lifter. But maybe not dead on straight like that, as that would likely leave them very little clearance to turn (unless the Zubr has the ability to turn on the spot?).

Maybe they could pack them like that for straight forward transport between bases/ports with heavy lift cranes.

For operational deployment where the Zubrs might need to deploy directly from the lifter, they will probably want to cant them at a slight angle.
Long ago ports were invented to allow the air from the air cushion to flow out horizontally at the fore and aft corners to manoevre air cushion craft at low speed. These should be adequate for all that is required for getting on and of 868.
But I still wonder how they are secured while in place.
 

lcloo

Captain
r203_145772_795429.jpg 203_145767_879191.jpg From the TV footage, particularly in this configuration, the operation is very much similar to a dry dock except that instead of water pumped into the dry dock, the ship lowered itself in half submerged position to allow the client ship to float in or out.

Notice that there are 4 Keel Block (the metal/timber blocks used to support bottom of client ship) and 2 metal poles used to mark and help move client ship into pre-determined position on deck and possibly to secure the Zubir in "locked down" position.

When resting on keel blocks, Zubir may or may not be able to move from deck to water under its own power. This depends on the void space created between 868's deck and Zubir's hull bottom when the air skirt is fully inflated, and the height of this void space is greater or less than the height obstruction of thee keel block.

Of course if 868 is in half submerged position, there won't be such problem.
 
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Jovian

Junior Member
Just a question regarding the Zubr-class hovercraft. Does any know if these hovercraft go side-way or turn on a spot (without moving from that spot)?
 

asif iqbal

Lieutenant General
I think it wouldn't be beyond the scope of the design of the 868 to lift two Zubr class simultaneously and it could be possible, after all why would they make it so huge what was the length requirement

Anyone have a google map view of the MLP we could accurately measure the length and determine if it's possible

Also is there any more MLP under construction this ship is really huge
 
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