PLAN Zubr Large Air Cushion Landing Craft
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lcloo
Captain
868 东海岛号，半潜船，2015年7月10日加入人民海军战斗序列。装备潜浮压载系统，有较强的滚装能力，可对重型装备构件及小型舰艇进行拖带、运输，同时可作为临时船坞对受损舰艇实施海上抢修.
868 Donghaidao, semi-submersible ship, commissioned on 2015 July 10th. Equiped with ballast system for buoyancy control, has strong RO/RO capability, can tow or transport heavy equipment and small ships, and also can be used as a temporally floating dock for repairing damaged ships at sea.
Source: Chinese internet Navy 360. Also as quoted in the video posted by Navyreco above.
868 Donghaidao, semi-submersible ship, commissioned on 2015 July 10th. Equiped with ballast system for buoyancy control, has strong RO/RO capability, can tow or transport heavy equipment and small ships, and also can be used as a temporally floating dock for repairing damaged ships at sea.
Source: Chinese internet Navy 360. Also as quoted in the video posted by Navyreco above.
kwaigonegin
Colonel
Yes that's exactly what it was made for. Remember Zubr was initially conceived in the 80s at the height of the cold war... I believe they were intended to use them on either the Sakhalin Straights or invasion of Turkey or both as well NATO's northern forces. They'll coming down from Scandinavia into northern Europe to attack NATO forces and meet up with forces from the northern flank. Remember that back in the 1980s Turkey had one of the largest standing armies in all of NATO and some Scandinavian countries have neutrality agreement with Warsaw Pact.
You can just tell that Zubr in large numbers would've been a great asset to the invasion of Western Europe to augment the land/air forces bearing down on multiple fronts.
Invasion routes of WP penetration into Western Europe.
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That's just fantasy. I remember reading an article by a British field marshal ( I've forgotten his name ) in the mid 80's in International Defence Review, a Swiss magazine later bought by Jane's , that in case of war in Europe NATO would be defending itself in Eastern Germany or Poland.Yes that's exactly what it was made for. Remember Zubr was initially conceived in the 80s at the height of the cold war... I believe they were intended to use them on either the Sakhalin Straights or invasion of Turkey or both as well NATO's northern forces. They'll coming down from Scandinavia into northern Europe to attack NATO forces and meet up with forces from the northern flank. Remember that back in the 1980s Turkey had one of the largest standing armies in all of NATO and some Scandinavian countries have neutrality agreement with Warsaw Pact.
You can just tell that Zubr in large numbers would've been a great asset to the invasion of Western Europe to augment the land/air forces bearing down on multiple fronts.
Invasion routes of WP penetration into Western Europe.
asif iqbal
Lieutenant General
Not sure delft but during the late 1970s the Soviet land army could on paper trump NATO in Europe, they were very powerful and could move land army's all around Europe in short period of time
1980s was different they declined but still were a formidable foe
This is why Americans worked on a joint Iranian-American counter attack strategy which later became a Turkish-American counter attack after the revolution in Iran
kwaigonegin
Colonel
Dunno, but I'm not here to argue hypothetical scenarios that luckily never happened although for every person that says what the British guy said said there are probably 5 other equally qualified people that swears NATO wouldn;t have been able to stop WP conventional forces in East Germany. They had plan making a stand in the Fulda Gapand pretty much go all in.
Anyway whatever it is, Zubr was conceived during the height of cold war and envisioned to play a key role in Soviet war plans.
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So are these numbers 3 and 4 of China's total?
I believe so.
The two from the Ukraine were already delivered and I believe those are the two built in China.
I would not be surprised at all to see China build more.
I forgot which exact Chinese source I heard from (probably CCTV 7), but the sources stated that China needs a minimum of 20 Zubrs in the case of a conflict with Taiwan or in the South China Sea.
Twenty seems high to me...but however many they need, they now are capable of building them themselves.
You have to give them credit. These vessels have been a very high interest vessel since the 1980s when they were first built by the Russians.
But it is the PRC who is now really going to make use of them as an active class of vessel in numbers it seems.