PLAN Type 035/039/091/092 Submarine Thread
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Hendrik_2000
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But not at the same rate. Following your logic China never catch up say in the economic. But She did in fact come from nowhere to become the 2nd largest economy in the world.
Or take the telecommunication industry. it was not too long ago the like of Erickson, Northern Telecom, Bell lab are the leader in telecommunication you don't see any Chinese company. Out of nowhere now Huawei, ZTE is the biggest Telco in the world now how you explain that?
Don't tell me it is different in military. US do have lead in military because disproportion allocation of the wealth to the military due to strong military lobby( military industrial complex)
But it will not last forever, the coming budget cut will necessarily cut back on research and development.
Another thing forget about the generation of "Kelly Johnson" a truly genius . Those generation and the generation of baby boomer are retiring in the droves
These days the best and brightest doesn't go to engineering instead they go to finance, law and service industry like medical and its related industry. Because there is more job security and better buck.
In fact I just come from company party there are 500 people and 80% have grey hair!.
In China the average age of the space and rocket engineer is around 30 at their peak of creativity
But not at the same rate. Following your logic China never catch up say in the economic. But She did in fact come from nowhere to become the 2nd largest economy in the world.
Or take the telecommunication industry. it was not too long ago the like of Erickson, Northern Telecom, Bell lab are the leader in telecommunication you don't see any Chinese company. Out of nowhere now Huawei, ZTE is the biggest Telco in the world now how you explain that?
Don't tell me it is different in military. US do have lead in military because disproportion allocation of the wealth to the military due to strong military lobby( military industrial complex)
But it will not last forever, the coming budget cut will necessarily cut back on research and development.
Another thing forget about the generation of "Kelly Johnson" a truly genius . Those generation and the generation of baby boomer are retiring in the droves
These days the best and brightest doesn't go to engineering instead they go to finance, law and service industry like medical and its related industry. Because there is more job security and better buck.
In fact I just come from company party there are 500 people and 80% have grey hair!.
In China the average age of the space and rocket engineer is around 30 at their peak of creativity
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Mysterre
Banned Idiot
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Oh, so you're an "engineer", are you? Sanitation engineers also call themselves engineers. They are also known as trash collectors. Your engineering background is meaningless without further specification. Even then it's probably still meaningless. As for your "theory", YOU DON'T HAVE ONE. There is nothing for me to disprove, but you on the other hand have alot of BS that you have NEVER backed up. China has 7-axis CNC mills. China has access to open source literature on acoustic dampening. China's subs don't look "too different" from other subs. Is this the content of your "theory"? You were saying that you don't just "blabbered" your mouth? Well here you are definitely just blabbering your mouth because all this nonsense constitutes NOTHING. It constitutes a joke of a theory. You don't know squat about the current state of Chinese submarine technology and you have nothing to show for it, including all that stuff you've been blabbering above. Nothing. Just a bunch of innuendo from just another outsider like the rest of us. And yes, you ARE an outsider, so stop pretending your "engineering" degree gives you any kind of advantage over everybody else on this topic. It doesn't. And it's showing, no matter how hard you pretend you know something you don't. Yes, China now has 7-axis CNC mills, access to literature, and 'similar' looking subs. Does any of this tell you, me or anybody else how advanced China's sub technology is? No, it does not. And you know it. And more importantly, the rest of us know it. Game over.
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These opinions could be wrong. A Chinese submarine was able to get within striking distance of the Kitty Hawk, and in a war situation would have sunk it. In that particular case, the US submariners protecting the carrier didn't know where the Chinese sub was coming from. It was probably trailing behind the carrier force. So, in a way, the submariners you spoke to was right when they said the Chinese subs were behind, because they like to tag US ships from behind.
Yes, he is. He wouldn't say so otherwise.
These opinions could be wrong. A Chinese submarine was able to get within striking distance of the Kitty Hawk, and in a war situation would have sunk it. In that particular case, the US submariners protecting the carrier didn't know where the Chinese sub was coming from. It was probably trailing behind the carrier force. So, in a way, the submariners you spoke to was right when they said the Chinese subs were behind, because they like to tag US ships from behind.
Yes, he is. He wouldn't say so otherwise.
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This did happen back in 2006. And it has not happened since. We had quite a discussion on this "back in the day"
http://www.sinodefenceforum.com/navy/chinese-sub-surfaces-undetected-behind-uss-kitty-hawk-2603.html
A member named sea dog posted this.
There's much more to this incident than meets the eye.
This did happen back in 2006. And it has not happened since. We had quite a discussion on this "back in the day"
http://www.sinodefenceforum.com/navy/chinese-sub-surfaces-undetected-behind-uss-kitty-hawk-2603.html
A member named sea dog posted this.
There's much more to this incident than meets the eye.
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The Chinese sub actually purpose left those signature and acoustic level to left you all pick it up and let you all think you gotcha them. One of the sub crew told me. But this kind of thing is abit classify, the crew of Song sub didn't tell me much...
The Chinese sub actually purpose left those signature and acoustic level to left you all pick it up and let you all think you gotcha them. One of the sub crew told me. But this kind of thing is abit classify, the crew of Song sub didn't tell me much...
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Well, the Chinese subs were undetectable when submerged. This is why it didn't appeared to have happened again. Surfacing to make a point once is more than enough. You can be sure Chinese subs tag US carriers all the time within the second island chain as part of their ASBM system. If I go have a chat with the Chinese sub crews, I am certain they will be able to confirm. I was told in the past that the US carrier battle group had an acoustic signature comparable to a hippo doing a break dance on the second floor of an apartment block, where everyone all around could hear and feel what's happening. So tagging such a thing was not hard at all.
Well, the Chinese subs were undetectable when submerged. This is why it didn't appeared to have happened again. Surfacing to make a point once is more than enough. You can be sure Chinese subs tag US carriers all the time within the second island chain as part of their ASBM system. If I go have a chat with the Chinese sub crews, I am certain they will be able to confirm. I was told in the past that the US carrier battle group had an acoustic signature comparable to a hippo doing a break dance on the second floor of an apartment block, where everyone all around could hear and feel what's happening. So tagging such a thing was not hard at all.
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They are up to the standard of being able to strike at US carriers. Why should they need anything more ? The PLA is a people's army, they would never waste the people's money unnecessarily by doing stuff that is not required.
They are up to the standard of being able to strike at US carriers. Why should they need anything more ? The PLA is a people's army, they would never waste the people's money unnecessarily by doing stuff that is not required.