PLAN Sovremenny DDG 136, 137, 138 & 139 Thread

dvan0

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Wasn't the SSN-22 the most potent anti-ship missile within the PLAN? Why replace it then? Are they putting different missiles in the same locations?
 

Hyperwarp

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Wasn't the SSN-22 the most potent anti-ship missile within the PLAN? Why replace it then? Are they putting different missiles in the same locations?

SS-N-22 was the most potent anti-ship missile in the PLAN when it was first bought. But don't forget the 1st 956E arrived in 2000 and those old 3M80E are limited to 120 km. RIM-162 ESSM can tackle threats such the SS-N-22.

PLAN is moving towards newer missiles such as the Supersonic YJ-12, subsonic YJ-62 and the mixed-stage YJ-18.

PLAN still lacks a stealthy subsonic passive guided missiles similar to the Kongsberg NSM, AGM-158/158C.
 

FORBIN

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The Moskit in 138, 139 (956EM) are different from the ones on the 136, 137 (956E). 956EM are armed with 3M80MBE instead of the 3M80E in 956E. The range is said to be 200 km for the 3M80MBE compared to the 120 km on the 3M80E. It seems the 3M80MBE development was funded by China.
Exact but sure one variant of SS-N-22 for each variant of DDG 956 modifications required for launcher ?
Not a size matter.

so do you think China will (or have) retire 3M80E and keep the 3M80MBE?
Yes much missiles reloads
 

FORBIN

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SS-N-22 was the most potent anti-ship missile in the PLAN when it was first bought. But don't forget the 1st 956E arrived in 2000 and those old 3M80E are limited to 120 km. RIM-162 ESSM can tackle threats such the SS-N-22.

PLAN is moving towards newer missiles such as the Supersonic YJ-12, subsonic YJ-62 and the mixed-stage YJ-18.

PLAN still lacks a stealthy subsonic passive guided missiles similar to the Kongsberg NSM, AGM-158/158C.
AGM-158 is very good you mean AGM-158C new AShM variant ofc, stealth warhead more big than YJ-12/18 but supersonic speed increase the power, damages so for AShM China have or soon good missiles don' t need for power similar to AGM-158C for it, for range yes inferior if about 300 km in a medium trajectory can be considered bad ...

But for A2G attack China don' t have AGM-158A or mainly B long range clearly better than Chinese KD-88 etc... more accurate, range and USAF have now in big qty.

I precise I talk for LR LACM not CJ-10, Tomahawk, Kaliber etc... very long range LACM.
 

FactsPlease

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A new with a 2nd VLS with 8 cellules after the HQ-10 more big cellules maybe
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Perhaps a re-post. If so, mod please delete it.
I believe the HHQ-10 on 136 is of 24 tubes. The gear is almost the same as on 052D
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The one on 056, 8 tubes (source: Wiki)
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On 052D (24 tubes):
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