PLAN SCS Bases/Islands/Vessels (Not a Strategy Page)

asif iqbal

Lieutenant General
It's good to see China building and developing its off shore naval and air assets but they are still close to Chinese mainland and at most will probably give China a few hundred miles of extension which is certainly not a bad thing

But to be serious about operations you need a oversea naval base and plenty of flat tops to keep sailors and crews moral high

Plus a big fleet of replenishment tankers
 

joshuatree

Captain
China will not based any military aircraft on Woody as it would be a needless escalation and provocation.

What China will do is build up the infrastructure so it that could deploy air power and naval forces to Woody and other developed islands at very short notice. That will serve as a deterrence against aggression or escalation from others, and if anyone is too stupid or stubborn to get the hint, China could always forward deploy military forces as a powerful counter move against any major escalating action by others.

Similar deal with a SCS AIDZ. China will not bother setting one up unless someone seriously ticks China off, like Japan has done.

I agree there won't be any major aircraft deployments soon on Woody but the infrastructure could still be built out to provide that option at a moments notice. Though I don't see forward deploying a few maritime surveillance planes for daily surveillance as needless escalation. Keeping tabs and understanding how the Vietnamese will operate their Kilos is worthy intel as well as whatever construction they carry out at their bases in the Spratlys.
 

Jeff Head

General
Registered Member
Cannot remember seeing this here on SD, but I believe it was from 2013 and a Sino-Vietnamese South China Sea standoff.

Amazing picture of one of Vietnam's new Gephard class frigates in a near pass with a PLAN Type 054A frigate.

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joshuatree

Captain

Not a standoff, but the 15th China-Vietnam Beibu Gulf joint patrol mission. Huangshan would be 570 and Dinh Tien Hoang would be HQ-011.

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ZHANJIANG, June 26 (ChinaMil) -- The Vietnamese naval taskforce consisting of the "Ly Thai To" and "Dinh Tien Hoang" guided missile frigates along with 200 officers and men led by Senior Captain Nguyen Duc Nho, deputy chief of staff of the Vietnamese Navy, arrived at the military port of Zhanjiang in south China's Guangdong province at 09:30 on June 25, 2013 for a four-day-long goodwill visit. Zhang Chuanshu, deputy chief of staff of the South China Sea Fleet of the Navy of the Chinese People's Liberation Army (PLAN), Nguyen Van Tho, Vietnamese ambassador to China, and others were at the port to welcome the arriving Vietnamese naval taskforce.

During the visit in Zhanjiang, the officers and men of the PLAN and the Vietnamese Navy will visit each other's ships and hold a friendly soccer match. The personnel of the Vietnamese Navy will also visit the city and tourist attractions of Zhanjiang.

It is reported that the Vietnamese naval taskforce had joined with the "Hengyang" guided missile frigate and the "Huangshan" guided missile frigate of the PLAN to complete the 15th China-Vietnam Beibu Gulf joint patrol mission prior to the visit.

Both the "Ly Thai To" guided missile frigate with the designated hull number of HQ012 and the "Dinh Tien Hoang" guided missile frigate with the designated hull number of HQ011 belong to the "Gepard"-class guided missile frigates of the Vietnamese Navy, with a full-load displacement of 2,090 tons, length of 102 meters, width of 13.6 meters and a draft of 4.7 meters respectively. Built by Russia and entered into service in 2011, the two frigates are currently the most advanced warships of the Vietnamese Navy.
 

Jeff Head

General
Registered Member
Not a standoff, but the 15th China-Vietnam Beibu Gulf joint patrol mission. Huangshan would be 570 and Dinh Tien Hoang would be HQ-011.

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Thanks, that is great info, and I stand corrected.

So, while having the flair ups between their Coast Guards and other auxiliaries, their Navies are exercising together.
 

Geographer

Junior Member
I'm cross-posting some recent photos of China's land reclamation in the Spratly Islands. Give credit to joshuatree and no_name for finding these pictures first.

Maybe Johnson South Reef but joshuatree thinks it's Hughes Reef / Dongmen Jiao.

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Another one of Johnson South Reef (maybe)

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Cuarteron Reef / Huayang Jiao

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Gaven Reef / Nanxun Jiao

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Eldad Reef / Anda Jiao

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This is the first time I've heard of land reclamation at Hughes, Caurteron, Gaven, and Eldad Reefs. Again, thanks to joshuatree and no_name!
 

Geographer

Junior Member
siegecrossbow, I can't find those images on my Google Earth! I'm using version 7.1.2.2041, the most recent. The most recent imagery it shows is from 2006. I get the same thing when going to Google Maps through Firefox. How did you get your imagery?
 
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