PLAN SCS Bases/Islands/Vessels (Not a Strategy Page)

ahojunk

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These pictures were taken within the last week.
Now imagine you are traveling towards Chigua Island.

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Approaching Chigua Island, still a distance away. This is how the island will look.

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Now getting closer to Chigua Island. The buildings are getting clearer.

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Now you can see the tower and dome on the left. On the right is a 9 storey building and the lighthouse.

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Now, your boat is turning right. The lighthouse is in the centre view. There is another dome next to the lighthouse. There is a ship anchored on the right.

Hope you have enjoyed this mini tour!
 

nfgc

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All around Hainan, Xisha,Nansha, Reed Bank etc in SCS are full of coral rocks thousands of meters thick formed since about 30 million years ago. SCS is a natural habitat for coral. They will naturally grow back.

What China has done is for human habitat, people can actually live and thrive on it, in stark contrast to what US had done to Johnston Atoll. I didn't hear you complain about what was done on Johnston's coral reef.

I was not alive then. Likely neither were you.

Unlike you I can admit the bad things that other countries have done. For instance, vapourising atolls for nuclear tests and radiating fishing vessels were both things that should not have been done.

When you reply, remember that not admitting the damage done by China to these reefs, after I have admitted the damage done by USA and French testing, proves your bias.

I await your, or any other poster here, to meet the moral standard I have met and admit that paving over reefs is a bad idea.

It was when the USA did it, when France vapourised atolls for tests.

Let's see what you and the pro-China posters here reply.

See how this works? I admit what others have done that was wrong.

I won't wait for a similar admission from you. We both know what you won't admit.
 

confusion

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Trees, desalination, and women at Yagong Island

This is a pic from 2013 (no trees):
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Villager estimates each tree on remote South China Sea island cost 20,000 yuan
PUBLISHED : Monday, 23 May, 2016

The dog, perhaps the only one in the whole South China Sea, had no name.

His fisherman owner had brought him to Yagong Island, a one hectare pile of white coral and clamshells hundreds of kilometres from the Chinese coast with no fresh water, just a lagoon in the middle.

It was named Yagong (male duck) for its shape. But the island, in the Paracels, was home to no duck, tree, flower or even ant.

Most of the time his owner was away fishing, and the dog was left alone on the island.

The sky was blue and the sea was green. The dazzling sun grilled the coral. The dog jumped into the sea and swam and swam, but he did not know the way back home to the mainland.

He returned to the island, lonely and depressed. He refused to eat. He died.

He was buried beneath the corals and shells at the northern end of the island, so he could be closer to home. A stone bearing the inscription “Dog’s Tomb” marks the spot to this day, more than 20 years after his death.

Life was hard and lonely. Even the men didn’t want to stay for long.

Humans have disputed possession of the islands and reefs in the South China Sea for decades, sometimes even going to battle for the fish in the water, the oil and gas beneath the seabed, the trade routes passing by and their national pride.

But living on the islands was a different story.

“We are here watching over this island for the country,” said Yagong village chief Ye Xingbin, a 66-year-old fisherman.

On nearby Silver Islet, an inscription in stone reads: “One has, takes and is dedicated to the responsibility to safeguard our lands.”

Ye, from Tanmen township, Hainan province, has called Yagong home for 16 years.

It used to be a temporary stopover used by fishermen. A stone erected soon after the 1974 battle with South Vietnam that secured the Paracels for China declares it a military forbidden zone in Chinese, Vietnamese and English.

Ye, who served as a porter in the 1974 battle, recalled the bad old days on the island when men collected rain for drinking, bathed and brushed their teeth with salt water, and washed their clothes in the sea.

As the name of the island suggests, there were no women on the island until last year.

“The living conditions were too bad for women,” Ye said. “Life was hard and lonely. Even the men didn’t want to stay for long.”

But China, eager to strengthen its control over the South China Sea, needs the Paracel Islands to be populated.

It established Sansha city on Woody Island in the Paracels in 2012 to bolster its claims to governance of a sparsely populated area of two million square kilometres – it has roughly 1,000 residents today – and followed that up with massive investment.

In 2013, Ye was provided with 120 tonnes of soil, 300 tonnes of fresh water and a supply of coconut fibres for his afforestation proposal – all shipped in. Official reports say it costs 100 yuan (HK$118) to transport each tonne of water from Hainan to the Paracels. He secured the soil with coconut fibres to retain water and successfully planted 400 trees on once barren Yagong.

A desalination device was installed the next year, which produces 15 tonnes of fresh water every day for drinking, washing and tree irrigation.

“Each tree has cost 20,000 yuan,” one of Yagong’s 78 villagers estimated.

More funding equipped the island with electricity generators, solar panels, public toilets and a satellite TV receiver. The government also bought each household a television.

“Otherwise the life would be too dull,” Ye said. “Now many of us even have an air conditioner at home.”

Ye’s tin-roofed house has no floor, like at the buildings on the island it’s fixed directly to the coral, but does have an air conditioner, refrigerator and television, plus a poster of President Xi Jinping and wife Peng Liyuan beside the door. If a big typhoon hits, the villagers seek shelter at the military bases on bigger islands nearby.

To make their homes safer, Yagong has plans for a 2,800 square metre residential and office complex, similar to one being built on nearby Silver Islet. It won’t be cheap because all the building materials will have to be transported from the mainland.

“Construction comes one island after another,” Ye said.

People are encouraged to live permanently on the islands, or at least change their residential registration to the villages. Yagong’s 78 registered residents are mostly fishermen, earning 60,000 to 70,000 a year. Since the launch of a regular tourist cruise line in 2013, they also get to sell seafood and local handcrafts to visitors and can also buy groceries from the cruise ship.

Yagong residents have set up a “tourism centre” with a seafood restaurant, and time fresh catches for the arrival of each cruise. The prices are not cheap, but villagers are proud of the freshness and taste.

“Meeting and talking with tourists is also fun,” Ye said. “Otherwise people just play mahjong in their spare time.”

The government pays each villager 45 yuan a day as long as they live on the island for more than six months a year. For officials like Ye, the term is seven months. Taking spouse along earns double pay, with the required stay extended to nine months.

But the transactions are sometimes delayed.

“I haven’t got my money for last year,” one villager complained.
 

confusion

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China will be basing a rescue vessel in the Spratlys:
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Crewmembers of the Nanhaijiu 118 conduct a rescue drill on May 11

Drones and robots could be used to help ships that get into difficulties

China is considering deploying an advanced rescue ship that could carry drones and underwater robots to the Nansha Islands this year to help ships in trouble, including foreign vessels.

Chen Xingguang, political commissar of the ship Nanhaijiu 118, under the Ministry of Transport's South China Sea Rescue Bureau, told China Daily of the plans.

"Our bureau is planning a duty post in the Nansha Islands, with a ship based there. This will possibly be carried out in the second half of the year," Chen said, without specifying which island the ship will be based at.

Wang Wensong, captain of the Nanhaijiu 118, said the ship proposed for the mission might be bigger than his 3,700-ton vessel and will be equipped with advanced rescue facilities. "It might carry drones and underwater robots," Wang said.

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A helicopter rescue team takes part in a lifesaving exercise on Thursday

The bureau was involved in the search for Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370, which disappeared more than two years ago on a flight from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing.

Wang said it was decided after this mission to develop underwater search capabilities.

He said the bureau has 31 ships and four helicopters to cover rescue work in the South China Sea. Other forces, such as the military, may join rescue efforts.

"The international shipping routes near the Nansha Islands are very busy. Such a big area means quite a number of ships could get into trouble," the captain said.

The South China Sea boasts one of the world's busiest shipping routes, with about 40 percent of global cargoes shipped annually passing through these waters. It also attracts many fishermen, who can be vulnerable in frequent typhoons.

Zhang Zengxiang, deputy head of the Shipping Division at the Maritime Affairs Bureau in Sansha, Hainan province, said the proposed base station will help with rescue work in the southern South China Sea.

"The main difficulty in rescue work around the Nansha Islands is the long distances," he said, adding that the Nanhaijiu 118, built last year, has to sail for nearly two days to reach the Nansha Islands from the Xisha Islands.

He also said the distance is too great for helicopters, the most efficient way to save lives at sea. The main way to handle accidents in the area at present is to arrange for vessels passing by to help.

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The Nanhaijiu 118 takes part in a drill off the Xisha Islands on May 3

Wang Qingjian, a captain who has fished in the Nansha Islands for 34 years, said, "The new station will greatly help fishermen."

Wang Wensong, the captain, said: "We will try our best to save any vessel sending distress signals in waters under our jurisdiction, no matter what country a vessel is from — even it is from a country that has territorial disputes with China, or a country without diplomatic relations with us. These are not problems."

Beijing has promised to develop its search and rescue capabilities in the South China Sea to "provide necessary assistance" to both Chinese and foreign ships.

In 2006, Wang, then first officer of the Nanhaijiu 111, worked with other Chinese rescuers to search a vast area after a typhoon, and located 22 Vietnamese fishing ships at Hanoi's request. They rescued and helped 330 Vietnamese fishermen.

Wang said the growing number of rescue forces in the South China Sea will help with China's Belt and Road Initiative and business worldwide.

"Shipping is the major way to send cargo, and a guaranteed international route is good news for all countries."
 

jkliz

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"Chen Xingguang, political commissar of the ship Nanhaijiu 118"
Political commissars are still a thing?
 

bran ruz

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Now you can see the tower and dome on the left. On the right is a 9 storey building and the lighthouse.

I see a black shape on the left hand side tower ("3 staires shaped") that looks like turret and gun. Do you confirm. What type or caliber?
 

nfgc

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I don't see or feel your moral weight here, not at all. If you made a post designed to provoke, you'll get what you are looking for.

I made post to point out hypocrisy, not provoke.
Either you admit as I have, or you prove your bias.

I have called your bluff. You think I will respond as you do, that I will never admit doing anything wrong. Unlike you I am able to admit mistakes.

You cannot admit mistakes.

I admitted that reclaiming Johnson Atoll (60 years ago) should not have been done.

Your unwillingness to make a similar statement about China just proves your bias and hypocrisy, especially after you brought up Johnston Atoll, thinking I would not admit it was wrong.

I will make this easy. Either you admit as I have, or you expose your bias. The choice is yours.

I admit this:
It was wrong for (the USA) to reclaim (Johnston Atoll).

All you need do is insert "China" for "the USA" and "Any SCS Reclaimed Land" for Johnston Atoll. Just exchange what is in the parenthesis.

We both know, however, that you won't.
 
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