PLAN invited to participate in RIMPAC for first the time (2014)

FarkTypeSoldier

Junior Member
Yesterday's Military Analyst Programme introduced the fleet of 4 ships going to RIMPAC 2014.

[video=youtube;TafFn4w9RKw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TafFn4w9RKw[/video]

I will translate to English once I finished watching the programme.

[Aftermath]

Actually regarding naval issue, I would prefer the more knowledgable Prof ZZZ who has more in-depth knowledge and analyzing skills of naval affairs. Anyway, the translation starts...

Programme first cut scene shows the final inspection being done and sending off in the ceremony. Top officals from the Central Military Commission and PLAN HQ came to send the DDG 171 off. The official Xu Hongmeng says the exercise is a vital step to strengthen both US and China military ties which could eventually take ties up to a greater level of co-operation in the Pacific region. The excerise would also enhance the Navy's multi tasks capabilities in modern context. Cut scene also briefly introduces the history and milestones as well as exercise topics of RIMPAC. After the exercise, DDG 171, FFG 575 & 886 will proceed to visit San Diego for friendly visit while Peace Ark will proceed to Papua New Guinea, Fiji Islands...etc countries for Humanitarian Exercises.

Fang Bin is the guest for this episode. FB gives a brief context of China's participating in RIMPAC 2014. In the last RIMPAC, Russia was invited and USN realised the importance of China (probably towards the growth of naval capability and regional stability) to partcipant after 2012, hence the invitation for China since last year. FB added that these 2 years sees the friendly strategic exchange of military diplomacy between these two nations.

Second cut scene introduces the partcipant ship 171's capabilties and background. FB comments that while some analysts and people (probably military hobbyist) worried about a modern DDG participanting in a foreign exercise would exposes some of its secrets, he rebuked that 170 & 171 have been partcipating actively in most of foreign exercises & ports as well as Anti-piracy missions in Somalia; hence there isnt to be much secrey about this trip. In addition, he thinks that PLAN had make a good decision in sending 171 for RIMPAC 14 as it represents the sincereity of Chinese participating in the exercise. The recent good ties between the two nations contributed the final decision to send 171 by CMC & PLAN signifies the good will of the Chinese navy and nation.

FB also adds that by sending 171 to a major US exercise is a slight change of attitude towards the US navy. It signifies that China is willing to keep the good military ties on-going by sending a major surface combatant. By sharing communications signals (on a restricted level), China is sending out good-willed message to USN. FB reckons China's navy have already attained a certain level of military capability, hence the sending of the fleet.

Third cut scene brings out to an introduction of Type 054A. FB comments that PLAN recent's favours the combination of 1 DDG + 1 FFG shows that there is a great potiential of both type of surface combatant could be an important assets with a blue-water navy in China's context. The DDG provides area anti-aircraft defenses in long-medium range while FFG provides medium-short range air defenses as well as anti-sub operations within a hypothesized Chinese carrier group in the near future.

Fourth cut scene introduces the auxillary ship 886 QianDaoHu. It has logistic capabilty to supply and replenish the several Chinese naval ships in a singel replenish operation. 886 was involved in Malaysian Airlines MH370 earlier this year to replenish supplies for the search party ship no.998 Kunlunshan as well as other Chinese search ships.

When asked why isnt PLAN sending more warships instead, FB replies there are teo factors to considerate. Firstly, it is a long journey which is likely to be equivilent as "expeditionary" type of exercise, as the journey covers almost half of Pacific Ocean. A long journey means the ships needs re-supplies in long journey exercises which is unlike USN having many oversea bases globally. Secondly, a supply ship isnt entirely defense-less. The supply ship can gain experience from this exercise as well.

Fifth cut scene takes us to tour the 866 Hospital Ship and a brief introduction. Interestingly, during peace time, it is called Peace Ark and during war time, it is named as "Dai Shan Dao". This hospital ship was sent to the relief of Philppines last year during the destructive cyclone. Peace Ark is built exclusively just for medical purpose and is dubbed as the " World's First 10,000 ton Hospital Ship" which is solely bulit for medical purpose by some magazines. During the RIMPAC 2014, its topic is medical research with other fellow hospital ships.

FB says Humanitarian Exercise topics are also vital during this military exchange. He also mentions that during war time, both warring parties are not supposed to attack hospital ship due to humanitarian purposes out of International Laws. This hospital ship, has been relaying a message towards other nations to symbolise peace with other nation, it has nothing to do with war. He cited the Phillppines Cyclone Reflief as an example. It is widely known that Chinese and Fillipinos are heated in the midst of the Island Disputes, the cyclone striked and caused billions of damaged and thousands of lives were lost. The Peace Ark was later sent to the area out of humanitarian purposes with disputes asided for a period.

Sixth cut scene takes us to partcipants of US fleet.

FB says, this is also a great chance for PLAN to observe (or may have the chance) the systematic operations of a CBG in terms of carrier defenses, carrier operations...etc. This chance of "learning" might be also a hidden agenda behind the PLAN's decision to partcipate.

Seventh cut scene brings us to see the fleet that Japan is sending. There is no plans for PLAN and JMSDF to train together in this year's exercise. FB states that this year is 2014, which is the 120th year anniversary of First Sino-Japanese (The War of Jiawu - simplified Chinese "甲午战争"), this is also the second Jiawu year which makes the exercise more complex with both neighbours participating. PLAN did reflect that they would not want to be under JMSDF command due to "complexity of historical issues" openly. This is due to long and active partcipant nations and US allies have a chance to be area / sub commanders of certain exercise topics.

FB ends the discussion that by participating in RIMPAC this year does not mean that China accepts US dorminance but it is a rare chance for PLAN to find its 'true and relative' position within the Pacific region and plan towards its strategtic goals for the future.

Due to time restraint, I need to rush off for other commitments. I have ommitted out some sensitive information and issues relating to the two neighbours.

Cheers.
 
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Jeff Head

General
Registered Member
Yesterday's Military Analyst Programme introduced the fleet of 4 ships going to RIMPAC 2014.

I will translate to English once I finished watching the programme.

[Aftermath]

Actually regarding naval issue, I would prefer the more knowledgable Prof ZZZ who has more in-depth knowledge and analyzing skills of naval affairs. Anyway, the translation starts...
I thought I would pull out some of the gems of your excellent translation:

Chinese Military Analyst Programme said:
The exercise is a vital step to strengthen both US and China military ties which could eventually take ties up to a greater level of co-operation in the Pacific region.

After the exercise, DDG 171, FFG 575 & 886 will proceed to visit San Diego for friendly visit.

Fang Bin is the guest for this episode. FB gives a brief context of China's participating in RIMPAC 2014. In the last RIMPAC, Russia was invited and USN realised the importance of China (probably towards the growth of naval capability and regional stability) to partcipant after 2012, hence the invitation for China since last year. FB added that these 2 years sees the friendly strategic exchange of military diplomacy between these two nations.

DDGs 170 & 171 have been partcipating actively in most of foreign exercises & ports as well as Anti-piracy missions in Somalia; hence there isnt to be much secrey about this trip. In addition, he thinks that PLAN had make a good decision in sending 171 for RIMPAC 14 as it represents the sincereity of Chinese participating in the exercise. The recent good ties between the two nations contributed the final decision to send 171 by CMC & PLAN signifies the good will of the Chinese navy and nation.

It signifies that China is willing to keep the good military ties on-going by sending a major surface combatant. By sharing communications signals (on a restricted level), China is sending out good-willed message to USN. FB reckons China's navy have already attained a certain level of military capability, hence the sending of the fleet.

In the introduction of Type 054A, PLAN favours the combination of 1 DDG + 1 FFG and shows that there is a great potiential of both type of surface combatant with a blue-water navy in China's context. The DDG provides area anti-aircraft defenses in long-medium range while FFG provides medium-short range air defenses as well as anti-sub operations within a hypothesized Chinese carrier group in the near future.

There are two factors to consider as to why PLAN did not send even more ships. Firstly, it is a long journey which is the equivilent as "expeditionary" type of exercise, as the journey covers almost half of Pacific Ocean. A long journey means the ships needs re-supply more often, which is unlike USN having many oversea bases globally. Secondly, a supply ship isnt entirely defense-less. The supply ship can gain experience from this exercise as well.

As to bringing the Peace Ark hospital ship, humanitarian exercises are also vital during this military exchange. He also mentions that during war time, both warring parties are not supposed to attack hospital ship due to humanitarian purposes out of International Laws. This hospital ship, has been relaying a message towards other nations to symbolise peace with other nation, it has nothing to do with war. He cited the Phillppines Cyclone Reflief as an example.

Finally, thus is also a great chance for PLAN to observe the systematic operations of a CBG in terms of carrier defenses, carrier operations...etc. This chance of "learning" mightalso be a part of the PLAN's decision to partcipate.

It is imporatn to note that there are no plans for PLAN and JMSDF to train together in this year's exercise. PLAN did indicate openly that they would not want to be under JMSDF command due to "complexity of historical issues.

I am very tempted to go down to San Diego to see the Chinese vessels. It is a long trip.

If the Lioning were coming I would definitley go. Perhaps, at some point in the future they shall.

I will have to work with the wife on our schedule and see if we can arrange to go down there if there is going to be an "open house," to visit the vessels.
 

xiabonan

Junior Member
I thought I would pull out some of the gems of your excellent translation:



I am very tempted to go down to San Diego to see the Chinese vessels. It is a long trip.

If the Lioning were coming I would definitley go. Perhaps, at some point in the future they shall.

I will have to work with the wife on our schedule and see if we can arrange to go down there if there is going to be an "open house," to visit the vessels.

I thought the Chinese vessels were only going to take part in the exercises at Hawaii?
 

kwaigonegin

Colonel
I thought I would pull out some of the gems of your excellent translation:



I am very tempted to go down to San Diego to see the Chinese vessels. It is a long trip.

If the Lioning were coming I would definitley go. Perhaps, at some point in the future they shall.

I will have to work with the wife on our schedule and see if we can arrange to go down there if there is going to be an "open house," to visit the vessels.

If the Liaoning and her J-15s come stateside I would definitely go to NBSD as well. they have wet,dry and also the shopping side! Make sure you fill up on gas cause it's a few cents cheaper LOL
 

Blackstone

Brigadier
I thought the Chinese vessels were only going to take part in the exercises at Hawaii?
The PLA Navy is out strutting its stuff, and has discovered the value of "goodwill" missions for training and chest pounding. TR's "Great White Fleet" lives!
 

Jeff Head

General
Registered Member
I thought the Chinese vessels were only going to take part in the exercises at Hawaii?
Well, in FarkTypeSoldier 's translation of the show, he indicated thaty the DDG, the FFG, and the AOR were going to San Diego for a goodwill visit.

If they do, I may go see the vessels.

If the Liaoning were conming there would be no doubt about it...I would definitely go. It's about a 1,000 mile trip for me.
 

FarkTypeSoldier

Junior Member
Well, in FarkTypeSoldier 's translation of the show, he indicated thaty the DDG, the FFG, and the AOR were going to San Diego for a goodwill visit.

If they do, I may go see the vessels.

If the Liaoning were conming there would be no doubt about it...I would definitely go. It's about a 1,000 mile trip for me.

Hi Xiaobonan and Jeff,

The programme reports that the three vessels will visit San Diego after the RIMPAC exercises.

There is no indication on whether is it after the entire exercises or after PLAN have completed their modules then they set off for San Diego.

I would very much want to see PLAN stays for the entire exercise even though they might not take part in later stages or certain high profile war games. It's a very chance to improve military diplomacy with other nations as well.

My two cents :)
 

Jeff Head

General
Registered Member
The programme reports that the three vessels will visit San Diego after the RIMPAC exercises.

I would very much want to see PLAN stays for the entire exercise even though they might not take part in later stages or certain high profile war games. It's a very chance to improve military diplomacy with other nations as well.

My two cents :)
I expect that they will stay for the whole exercise...that's kind of the tradition because there are a lot of extra-curricula activities in addition to the time at sea.

Afterwards I would expect them to visit San Diego.
 

FarkTypeSoldier

Junior Member
I expect that they will stay for the whole exercise...that's kind of the tradition because there are a lot of extra-curricula activities in addition to the time at sea.

Afterwards I would expect them to visit San Diego.

Just nice that after the exercise have ended, it is on August 1st - "Ba Yi Jian Jun Jie", the celebration of the creation of PLA.
 

asif iqbal

Lieutenant General
More Picture of RIMPAC we can see Type 052C and a Arleigh Burke

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Type 052C and Burke
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