PLAN Carrier Strike Group and Airwing

renmin

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PLABUDDY said:
Really? I would like to see that....do u know where i can find it?
you would have to be watching Chinese Television, many pictures have been taken from the PLA daily news

the daily news is also in Chinese so you would have to know mandrin if you wish to understand what is being said.
 

Jeff Head

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Re: Latest Varyag Pics

renmin said:
you would have to be watching Chinese Television, many pictures have been taken from the PLA daily news.
Any pics from inside the Varyag? or up close of the aft end that you could tell us about?

Inquiring minds want to know!
 

muyang523

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Re: Latest Varyag Pics

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Jeff Head

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Re: Latest Varyag Pics

That first looks relatively new...but the second is at least a couple of years old I believe.

I will be glad to see the pics when they start doing enough topside to get a better idea of what the actual plans are.
 

MIGleader

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Re: Latest Varyag Pics

Jeff Head said:
That first looks relatively new...but the second is at least a couple of years old I believe.

I will be glad to see the pics when they start doing enough topside to get a better idea of what the actual plans are.

actually, the first one still looks as it it were varyag before the dry dock. its still grey. the second pic is on sinodefence.
 

Jeff Head

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Re: Latest Varyag Pics

MIGleader said:
actually, the first one still looks as it it were varyag before the dry dock. its still grey. the second pic is on sinodefence.
Perhaps...but it could also be, because of the shading, later. The deck shot is not new in any case. Not that it is a problem...all Varyag shots in the PLAN shipyards are interesting to me.
 

kikyo

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Re: Latest Varyag Pics

Jeff Head said:
Perhaps...but it could also be, because of the shading, later. The deck shot is not new in any case. Not that it is a problem...all Varyag shots in the PLAN shipyards are interesting to me.
Nope, the first pic is a relatively old pic. The grey is not shading..it is Varyag sometime ago before she was painted.
 

Jeff Head

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kikyo said:
Nope, the first pic is a relatively old pic. The grey is not shading..it is Varyag sometime ago before she was painted.
Perhaps so...then that simply means that both of those images are older and that is fine too...although I am hoping for newer pics of Varyag with this thread. I am sure some more will be forthcoming sometime soon.

If you run across any, please post them here.
 

tphuang

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Re: Latest Varyag Pics

Interesting post from AFM, I think Jeff has already seen this one:

I've just been informed by friends in the Brazilian Mavy that recently in the last months a high ranking delegation of the Chinese Navy (PLAN) toured the Brazilian aircraft carrier and made a great many questions regarding how we operated our CV, number of pilots on board, Air wing personel, and the procedures for training of the landing signals officers..

Could this be another tip that they are finally going to build and operate their own carriers..

The Brazilian Navy officer also said they were the "most interested and thorough foreign visitors to the São Paulo" since it was received by the Brazilian Navy

Tough and precise questions...

Regards, Hammer


And another one about China's interest in su-33
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" CHINESE INTEREST IN Su-33

Chinese interest in aircraft carriers has entered an active phase, and a Chinese delegation visited MAKS'2005 to carefully study all the necessary technologies. A presentation of the Su-33 and Su- 27KUB (Su-33UB) shipborne fighters was specially arranged for the Chinese party, including a late-evening Su-27KUB demonstration flight during the show. The Su27KUB, which was not included in the official list of aircraft on display, was only present at MAKS for half a day. It was brought from Saki, Ukraine, where it is being tested, specifically for the purpose of being presented to the Chinese delegation.

At the beginning of August, before the MAKS exhibition, a Chinese delegation visited St Petersburg, where it listened to presentations by representatives of the Nevskoye PKB ship design bureau, the designer of Russian aircraft carriers, as well as to other companies cooperating with Nevskoye PKB. The Chinese also examined aircraft carrier equipment, including automatic landing systems and arresting devices. The Chinese probably visited also the Ukrainian shipyard in Mykolayiv, which has built all Soviet aircraft carries, including the Admiral Kuznetsov and Varyag.

The Russians have submitted a three-stage proposal with various dates of delivery for selling Su-33 shipborne fighters:

- present version of Su-33 as used by the Russian Navy, armed only with air-to-air missiles and intended for fleet air defence;

- modernised Su-33M version with avionics and weapons similar to that of Su-30MK2 shore-based fighters operated by the Chinese Navy, including Kh-31A antiship missiles;

- future advanced version of multirole shipborne fighter similar to the shore-based Su-35 fighter presently under development.

For the time being, the two-seat shipborne Su-27KUB is considered by the Chinese as a training aircraft only. "
 

Jeff Head

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Re: Latest Varyag Pics

tphuang said:
Chinese interest in aircraft carriers has entered an active phase, and a Chinese delegation visited MAKS'2005 to carefully study all the necessary technologies. A presentation of the Su-33 and Su- 27KUB (Su-33UB) shipborne fighters was specially arranged for the Chinese party, including a late-evening Su-27KUB demonstration flight during the show. The Su27KUB, which was not included in the official list of aircraft on display, was only present at MAKS for half a day. It was brought from Saki, Ukraine, where it is being tested, specifically for the purpose of being presented to the Chinese delegation.

At the beginning of August, before the MAKS exhibition, a Chinese delegation visited St Petersburg, where it listened to presentations by representatives of the Nevskoye PKB ship design bureau, the designer of Russian aircraft carriers, as well as to other companies cooperating with Nevskoye PKB. The Chinese also examined aircraft carrier equipment, including automatic landing systems and arresting devices. The Chinese probably visited also the Ukrainian shipyard in Mykolayiv, which has built all Soviet aircraft carries, including the Admiral Kuznetsov and Varyag.

The Russians have submitted a three-stage proposal with various dates of delivery for selling Su-33 shipborne fighters:

- present version of Su-33 as used by the Russian Navy, armed only with air-to-air missiles and intended for fleet air defence;

- modernised Su-33M version with avionics and weapons similar to that of Su-30MK2 shore-based fighters operated by the Chinese Navy, including Kh-31A antiship missiles;

- future advanced version of multirole shipborne fighter similar to the shore-based Su-35 fighter presently under development.

For the time being, the two-seat shipborne Su-27KUB is considered by the Chinese as a training aircraft only. "
Now this is news with some real teeth in it. Thank you so much tphuang.

If this is accurate...it really cements in my mind that the PPRC and PLAN are moving very distinctly forward with making the Varyag operational...right now it is the only thing that we know of that would fit such a scenario.
 
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