PLAN Carrier Strike Group and Airwing

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no_name

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Re: PLAN Carrier Construction

Is it possible to build a ship with flat bow, and reserve space for catapult to be installed later if it is not yet ready, but have a ramp on top that is removable so they can have a STOBAR now if they want, but can easily be changed to a CATOBAR later?
 
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chuck731

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Re: PLAN Carrier Construction

no_name said:
Is it possible to build a ship with flat bow, and reserve space for catapult to be installed later if it is not yet ready, but have a ramp on top that is removable so they can have a STOBAR now if they want, but can easily be changed to a CATOBAR later?
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Yes, that is how the QE class was designed.
 
Equation

Equation

Lieutenant General
Re: PLAN Carrier Construction

chuck731 said:
Yes, that is how the QE class was designed.
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So there are sort of two metal structural layers on top of the QE? How do they going to put in the catapult trench when they want to go to CATOBAR mode or is it already been built into it?
 
Jeff Head

Jeff Head

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Re: PLAN Carrier Construction

Equation said:
So there are sort of two metal structural layers on top of the QE? How do they going to put in the catapult trench when they want to go to CATOBAR mode or is it already been built into it?
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No cats installed on the QE, just provisions for them.

At this stage, I doubt seriously that they will revert to it in the future. But, if they had the right politicians and environment...they could. But it would be very costly. With all of the F-35B buys they will make, they are absolutely most likely to keep it STOBAR.
 
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no_name

Colonel
Re: PLAN Carrier Construction

So then maybe it is not inconceivable that PLANs first indigenous carrier is STOBAR (Since that is what J-15 is designed for, and the J-15 will be used for all their worth), but with provision to change her quickly into a CATOBAR later down the track, eventually fielding an all CATOBAR carrier force with the exception of Liaoning.
 
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delft

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Re: PLAN Carrier Construction

Jeff Head said:
No cats installed on the QE, just provisions for them.

At this stage, I doubt seriously that they will revert to it in the future. But, if they had the right politicians and environment...they could. But it would be very costly. With all of the F-35B buys they will make, they are absolutely most likely to keep it STOBAR.
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The UK government did decide to go for cats and traps and changed the order from F-35B to C, but then, suddenly, it was much to expensive and they went back to ski ramps. The story was that the cats and changing the carriers to fit the cats were together too expensive. And that was before the first carrier was assembled. How much would it then cost to disassemble a large part of a carrier to remove a ski ramp and fit the cats with their associated power system? I think the last part would be the main problem.
 
Jeff Head

Jeff Head

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The Indian Navy has stood up a squadron of in service, full production Mig-29Ks for their Virkamaditya aircraft carrier...and the proof is in the pudding:


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That picture show eight of the full squadron of sixteen that have been stood up.

With that full air wing, already ready and pilots already worked up on the aircraft themselves, the INS is going to rapidly progress to having a trained and operational squadron of aircraft in service and at sea on the Virkamaditya.

I look forward to the day when we can see a picture like that of a squadron of PLAN J-15s lined up and being reviewed as they are formed into a full, active squadron.
 
Jeff Head

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World Maritime News said:
Huntington Ingalls Industries announced yesterday that its Newport News Shipbuilding (NNS) division installed the third and final aircraft elevator on the nuclear-powered aircraft carrier Gerald R. Ford (CVN 78).

The elevator, which is used to move aircraft from the hangar bay to the flight deck quickly and safely, is located on the starboard side of the ship. It measures 85 feet long and 52 feet wide and weighs 120 tons, akin to a steam locomotive.

“The Ford class is designed with three aircraft elevators, one less than the Nimitz class,” said Rolf Bartschi, NNS vice president, CVN 78 carrier construction. “The design provides greater flight deck area for increased sortie rates over the Nimitz-class design. The location and number of aircraft elevators are an integral part of the design.”

Gerald R. Ford’s primary hull structure reached 100 percent structural completion in May, bringing more than three years of structural erection work to a close. Work continues on the ship, including work on the piping and electrical systems and habitability areas such as the galley and mess spaces. Shipbuilders are also in the process of painting the hull prior to the ship’s christening, scheduled for Nov. 9
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Christening on Novmebr 9th!

Whoohoo! That date is going to come quickly now.
 
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