PLAN Carrier Strike Group and Airwing

Jeff Head · Jan 4, 2009

Re: Ideal chinese carrier thread

jackbh said:
Next year could be this year 2009 because they did the interview in the end of 2008.

In that case, if they are fortunate in doing the types of things I spoke of in my last post, the 2017 date becomes more and more likely. I still believe the 2015 date for two carriers being commissioned into the fleet would be far too ambitious.

Certainly the Varyag would be commissioned well before then if the PLAN finishes her within the next 12-18 months. A 2012-2013 date for her is very acheivable and she would be invaluable in preparing for the other two.

Jeff Head · Jan 4, 2009

Re: Ideal chinese carrier thread

jackbh said:
Next year could be this year 2009 because they did the interview in the end of 2008.

In that case, if they are fortunate in doing the types of things I spoke of in my last post, the 2017 date becomes more and more likely. I still believe the 2015 date for two carriers being commissioned into the fleet would be far too ambitious.

Certainly the Varyag would be commissioned well before then if the PLAN finishes her within the next 12-18 months. A 2012-2013 date for her is very acheivable and she would be invaluable in preparing for the other two.

Jeff Head · Jan 4, 2009

Re: Ideal chinese carrier thread

jackbh said:
Next year could be this year 2009 because they did the interview in the end of 2008.

In that case, if they are fortunate in doing the types of things I spoke of in my last post, the 2017 date becomes more and more likely. I still believe the 2015 date for two carriers being commissioned into the fleet would be far too ambitious.

Certainly the Varyag would be commissioned well before then if the PLAN finishes her within the next 12-18 months. A 2012-2013 date for her is very acheivable and she would be invaluable in preparing for the other two.

bd popeye · Jan 4, 2009

Re: Ideal chinese carrier thread

Hi Jeff! Happy to know you still visit SDF!

I still believe the 2015 date for two carriers being commissioned into the fleet would be far too ambitious.

I agree. The PLAN has no experience in operating a CV. As an example it takes the USN 7 years to build a CVN once the steel is cut. In the case of an LHA/LHD it takes about 5 years. It then takes nearly three years of constant training to have the air wing and ships crew trained well enough to deploy. And remember the USN has been operating CVs since 1922.

bd popeye · Jan 4, 2009

Re: Ideal chinese carrier thread

Hi Jeff! Happy to know you still visit SDF!

I still believe the 2015 date for two carriers being commissioned into the fleet would be far too ambitious.

I agree. The PLAN has no experience in operating a CV. As an example it takes the USN 7 years to build a CVN once the steel is cut. In the case of an LHA/LHD it takes about 5 years. It then takes nearly three years of constant training to have the air wing and ships crew trained well enough to deploy. And remember the USN has been operating CVs since 1922.

bd popeye · Jan 4, 2009

Re: Ideal chinese carrier thread

Hi Jeff! Happy to know you still visit SDF!

I still believe the 2015 date for two carriers being commissioned into the fleet would be far too ambitious.

I agree. The PLAN has no experience in operating a CV. As an example it takes the USN 7 years to build a CVN once the steel is cut. In the case of an LHA/LHD it takes about 5 years. It then takes nearly three years of constant training to have the air wing and ships crew trained well enough to deploy. And remember the USN has been operating CVs since 1922.

Jeff Head · Jan 4, 2009

Re: Ideal chinese carrier thread

bd popeye said:
Hi Jeff! Happy to know you still visit SDF!

Thanks Popeye. It's been a very busy election season followed by a very busy...but also very enjoyable...holiday season for me and my family.

Lots of news hitting the air and cyber waves these days and I am glad to finally see some movement.

If the PLAN is serious about the two carriers being built in Shanghai (and it now looks more and more like they are), then I believe it is all the more likely that they will finish and commission the Varyag and use her to prepare for the commissioning of the other two...particularly for training.

Also the new 054A FFG builds in HP and HD are an indication of their kick starting their naval surface combatant production again after a lull for the last 9+ months.

Lots of interesting and exciting things happening.

Jeff Head · Jan 4, 2009

Re: Ideal chinese carrier thread

bd popeye said:
Hi Jeff! Happy to know you still visit SDF!

Thanks Popeye. It's been a very busy election season followed by a very busy...but also very enjoyable...holiday season for me and my family.

Lots of news hitting the air and cyber waves these days and I am glad to finally see some movement.

If the PLAN is serious about the two carriers being built in Shanghai (and it now looks more and more like they are), then I believe it is all the more likely that they will finish and commission the Varyag and use her to prepare for the commissioning of the other two...particularly for training.

Also the new 054A FFG builds in HP and HD are an indication of their kick starting their naval surface combatant production again after a lull for the last 9+ months.

Lots of interesting and exciting things happening.

Jeff Head · Jan 4, 2009

Re: Ideal chinese carrier thread

bd popeye said:
Hi Jeff! Happy to know you still visit SDF!

Thanks Popeye. It's been a very busy election season followed by a very busy...but also very enjoyable...holiday season for me and my family.

Lots of news hitting the air and cyber waves these days and I am glad to finally see some movement.

If the PLAN is serious about the two carriers being built in Shanghai (and it now looks more and more like they are), then I believe it is all the more likely that they will finish and commission the Varyag and use her to prepare for the commissioning of the other two...particularly for training.

Also the new 054A FFG builds in HP and HD are an indication of their kick starting their naval surface combatant production again after a lull for the last 9+ months.

Lots of interesting and exciting things happening.

tphuang · Jan 4, 2009

Re: Ideal chinese carrier thread

Jeff Head said:
Thanks Popeye. It's been a very busy election season followed by a very busy...but also very enjoyable...holiday season for me and my family.

Lots of news hitting the air and cyber waves these days and I am glad to finally see some movement.

If the PLAN is serious about the two carriers being built in Shanghai (and it now looks more and more like they are), then I believe it is all the more likely that they will finish and commission the Varyag and use her to prepare for the commissioning of the other two...particularly for training.

Also the new 054A FFG builds in HP and HD are an indication of their kick starting their naval surface combatant production again after a lull for the last 9+ months.

Lots of interesting and exciting things happening.

good seeing you, I can totally concur with the busyness in the last few months. And I figure now that the Olympics is over, there will be a lot more excitement here.

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