PLAN Anti-Piracy Deployments
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Re: Somali pirates and Chinese navy
I would expect a well aimed round from an AK-47 or RPG could render a lot of things useless.What could it do to the ship itself or a low flying aircraft for instance?
I would expect a well aimed round from an AK-47 or RPG could render a lot of things useless.What could it do to the ship itself or a low flying aircraft for instance?
Re: Somali pirates and Chinese navy
Well... the air cushion seemed like a pretty large target, and it don't move as fast as a helicopter. The somalian pirates do have RPG and AK-47, and they know how to use their weapon.
As for your example of the low flying aircraft, it always bring me back to the incident of the Battle of Magadishu (also in Somalia), RPG fired from the somalian shot down two Black Hawk helicopters... maybe it is luck, but the incident did show some vulnerbility of helicopters. (not going to go further, bcos it is
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As for ship... I would believe that if AK-47 had absolutely no impact against a destroyer or a frigate. As to the RPG... well... a frigate or a destroyer had more armour on it for these weapons to be of much use.
But LCAC didn't share the same armour, plus, the cushion, which was quite big was actually a good target for trained militia.
Well... the air cushion seemed like a pretty large target, and it don't move as fast as a helicopter. The somalian pirates do have RPG and AK-47, and they know how to use their weapon.
As for your example of the low flying aircraft, it always bring me back to the incident of the Battle of Magadishu (also in Somalia), RPG fired from the somalian shot down two Black Hawk helicopters... maybe it is luck, but the incident did show some vulnerbility of helicopters. (not going to go further, bcos it is
ff)As for ship... I would believe that if AK-47 had absolutely no impact against a destroyer or a frigate. As to the RPG... well... a frigate or a destroyer had more armour on it for these weapons to be of much use.
But LCAC didn't share the same armour, plus, the cushion, which was quite big was actually a good target for trained militia.
Spartan95
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Re: Somali pirates and Chinese navy
From what I understand, the LCAC won't sink. It can actually sit on the water without the air cushion. The air cushion just enables it to glide over the wate's surface (or any flat surface for that matter).
If the skirting (which is probably what you are talking about) is damaged by bullets or RPG, the damaged side will probably drag in the water as the skirt won't be able to form a proper air cushion. However, how badly it drags depends on how badly it is damaged.
I would think that bullets won't be too much of a problem. Afterall, these things are designed to land combat troops in a potentially hostile beach.
From what I understand, the LCAC won't sink. It can actually sit on the water without the air cushion. The air cushion just enables it to glide over the wate's surface (or any flat surface for that matter).
If the skirting (which is probably what you are talking about) is damaged by bullets or RPG, the damaged side will probably drag in the water as the skirt won't be able to form a proper air cushion. However, how badly it drags depends on how badly it is damaged.
I would think that bullets won't be too much of a problem. Afterall, these things are designed to land combat troops in a potentially hostile beach.
Re: Somali pirates and Chinese navy
Althought it was kinda back in the days (mid-70s) I think there is a precedence of rpgs/handgrenades being used against frigates during the Paracel Island conflict between China and South Vietnam. When Chinese ships got too close to the Vietnamese vessels to use the cannons they resorted to using the rpgs and handgrenades with great effect. They should at least be somewhat useful as anti-personnel weapons to those unfortunate enough to be on deck.
Well... the air cushion seemed like a pretty large target, and it don't move as fast as a helicopter. The somalian pirates do have RPG and AK-47, and they know how to use their weapon.
As for your example of the low flying aircraft, it always bring me back to the incident of the Battle of Magadishu (also in Somalia), RPG fired from the somalian shot down two Black Hawk helicopters... maybe it is luck, but the incident did show some vulnerbility of helicopters. (not going to go further, bcos it is
As for ship... I would believe that if AK-47 had absolutely no impact against a destroyer or a frigate. As to the RPG... well... a frigate or a destroyer had more armour on it for these weapons to be of much use.
But LCAC didn't share the same armour, plus, the cushion, which was quite big was actually a good target for trained militia.
Althought it was kinda back in the days (mid-70s) I think there is a precedence of rpgs/handgrenades being used against frigates during the Paracel Island conflict between China and South Vietnam. When Chinese ships got too close to the Vietnamese vessels to use the cannons they resorted to using the rpgs and handgrenades with great effect. They should at least be somewhat useful as anti-personnel weapons to those unfortunate enough to be on deck.
Re: Somali pirates and Chinese navy
contrary to rumours that one of the sovs will be on the next (7th) flotilla to Aden, it will actually consist of 529, 530 and 886. The mission will start on the 20th of this month and end in 28th of March. 886 is the replenishment ship for all of the flotilla from ESF and 887 is the replenishment ship for all of the flotilla from SSF.
contrary to rumours that one of the sovs will be on the next (7th) flotilla to Aden, it will actually consist of 529, 530 and 886. The mission will start on the 20th of this month and end in 28th of March. 886 is the replenishment ship for all of the flotilla from ESF and 887 is the replenishment ship for all of the flotilla from SSF.
joshuatree
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Re: Somali pirates and Chinese navy
Seems to reinforce the observation that the Sovs rarely take on any missions.
Seems to reinforce the observation that the Sovs rarely take on any missions.