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AndrewS

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On balance, I would say that "China speed" and the "China price" should be the default normal assumption in the realm of technology development.
 

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I don't know why some people find the idea of Chinese EMALs so improbable if they are being truly objective.

Given the fact that China has developed and commercially operated maglev train lines, which uses the same core technology as EMALs, the fact that China can and is development EMALs really should be surprising or mind boggling to anyone.

China being able to draw on that prior experience, work done and expertise developed from its civilian maglev train projects to speed up EMAL development again, is pretty much to be expected, compared to the US, which has never developed civilian maglev technology, which had to start from a much lower base when developing EMALs, compared to China.

All too often, I see western 'experts' and pundits apply an unreasonable, and almost arrogant 'Chinese tax' delay to their expectations of how long it will take China to do something, which could be roughly summaries as taking how long it took the west to do it, and then arbitrarily adding X number of years on top because the Chinese 'obviously' couldn't be expected to be as good as westerners at anything.

When the Chinese not only beats those baseless expectations, but often also the length of time the west took to make those breakthroughs in the first place, that is when all the 'inferior quality' and 'copying/stealing' allegations starts popping up.

It's unlikely because it does not fit the long standing Chinese approach to adoption of untried technology.

Traditionally, China has not accepted the unqualified risks associated with pursuing the position of defense technological leadership. Instead China has sought out technology which other major powers have already committed to and thus provided a track record for China to assess the risks.
 

delft

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It's unlikely because it does not fit the long standing Chinese approach to adoption of untried technology.

Traditionally, China has not accepted the unqualified risks associated with pursuing the position of defense technological leadership. Instead China has sought out technology which other major powers have already committed to and thus provided a track record for China to assess the risks.
That depended/depends on circumstances. It didn't happen that way when they invented gun powder and developed guns.
For China steam cats and EM cats are both untried technology. They have seen that steam cats work in the hands of others but it is an isolated technology. They have experience with technologies related to that of EM cats so the choice for these looked safer to them at the time US considered the time for this development had come.
 

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It's unlikely because it does not fit the long standing Chinese approach to adoption of untried technology.

Traditionally, China has not accepted the unqualified risks associated with pursuing the position of defense technological leadership. Instead China has sought out technology which other major powers have already committed to and thus provided a track record for China to assess the risks.
China has no such tradition that you speak of. A good counter example is thermonuclear weapons. Another good one is ASBM. China adopted diverterless supersonic inlet the same time as America did. China already put large AESA radars on to naval ships when European navies just started playing with miniature AESA radars and USN was still using PESA radars.
 
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taxiya

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It's unlikely because it does not fit the long standing Chinese approach to adoption of untried technology.

Traditionally, China has not accepted the unqualified risks associated with pursuing the position of defense technological leadership. Instead China has sought out technology which other major powers have already committed to and thus provided a track record for China to assess the risks.
very wrong my friend. The military history says otherwise. It is only in the recent less than two hundred years that China is trailing behind other powers, not for the majority of the her history.

Besides gunpowder and firearms that deft mentioned, here are some other technologies that China invented and adopted before anyone on the planet.

Catapult, Trebuchet, brought by the mongols to bring down the wall of Baghdad in 1258. China has been using them long before that.

The first chemical canon balls in human history, Song dynasty.

Crossbow, known to be used by Chinese at least 2500 years ago.

Hand grenade, Song Dynasty.

Massive use of steel in weapons, not necessarily the first, but without contacting anyone else who begin to use it.

Up to 1500 or maybe even later, Chinese sea-going ships are the biggest in the world. Legend of Zheng He's fleet may be a bit exagerated, but close to the reality, evidented by the size of remained rudders and dry dock.

China is the first to use dry dock to build ships.

"Shooting in three rows" tactic was used in 1700s by European armies, China has been using it in the Ming dynasty (1368–1644).

Again, regular Ming dynasty army in the northern frontier has about 30% of its men using firearms.

The list is very long.
 
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However to compare the Liaoning with the latest US Supercarriers and their air wings - and to come to the conclusion that the US are superior - is like comparing a small North Sea “Krabbenkutter” (as we call these tiny small boats) with a high-sea fishing trawler …

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