PLAN Aircraft Carrier programme...(Closed)

[QUOTE="Intrepid, post: 380971, member: 425"0
I have never seen evidence of the Russians performing and spotting many aircraft for take-off on the landing strip or many aircraft after landing on the take-off runs like it was normal during the Vietnam war.

Kuznetsov was until now never trained in such a role (or in other words: the attack capability of Kuznetsov comes from her missiles and not from her aircraft).[/QUOTE]
That's exactly right, and it is because the Kuznetsov was not deisgned or intended for that type of role.

It was built as a vessel to provide air superiority over Russian sea bastions if necessary, while it (along with other vessels) provided ASW defense for those bastions as well. To keep US/NATO and allies forces away from the SSBNs.

It's offensive role, if needed, was to be the large, long range SSMs, and they would be accompanied by those same type SSMs from the Kirov nuclear cruisers and the Oscar nuclear SSGNs that would be in the area too.

delft said:

If 001A is to be floated out before 2016 then those photographs we've been seeing are very old.

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001A will not be floated before 2016.

More likely 2018, if they are going to wait until she is structurally complete before floating her.

IMHO, China is not going to do the type of thing India did with the Vikram.

Jeff Head said:

001A will not be floated before 2016.

More likely 2018, if they are going to wait until she is structurally complete before floating her.

IMHO, China is not going to do the type of thing India did with the Vikram.

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Of course not. Its just that I missed the mid before 2016. Sorry!

I believe Big Cat's words carried more weights than others. He said out of dock by Spring next year if all goes well. If there is any delay, I believe 001A can still be launched before end of 2016.

Here is latest photo from Big Cat. It is the same as the one added on Dec 25th. Check the front lift door opening, and the red hydraulic jacks (for support of next hangar deck module while carrying out welding). Also note that opening of all "cargo holds" at the bow section are now sealed.

Building conventional carrier is way much faster than building nuclear powered carrier. Plus they already have 2 years preparing the module Yea I believe you they will launch it by next year. Barring any unexpected hiccup

Hendrik_2000 said:

Building conventional carrier is way much faster than building nuclear powered carrier. Plus they already have 2 years preparing the module Yea I believe you they will launch it by next year. Barring any unexpected hiccup

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That means that further conventional flattops can be built in a single shipyard at a rate of one every year and a half. Is a second shipyard only necessary to built nuclear powered ones? Is there a good reason why nuclear powered ones should take years more to build? Is the US rate determined by: the ships will serve fifty years and we need ten of them so each should occupy a dry dock for five years and we won't invest in production facilities to shorten that time?

Nuclear power plant need to meet stringent requirement of Nuclear code that mean tons of paper work and procedure that must be satisfied

Every component must be analyzed and proven beyond doubt that it will work in most extreme condition. That take time! Then it must have shielding and safety system in case of accident. Then you still have to built nuclear fuel handling and containment system

During fabrication another ton of quality assurance paper work must be satisfied then inspection etc

Conventional power use off the shelf component that is qualify based on previous experience and previous analysis. The code requirement is less strict. That is why nuclear power plant take so long and so expensive to built

Was a steam power system (boilers, turbines, gearboxes) tested somewhere on land?

Hendrik_2000 said:

Nuclear power plant need to meet stringent requirement of Nuclear code that mean tons of paper work and procedure that must be satisfied

Every component must be analyzed and proven beyond doubt that it will work in most extreme condition. That take time! Then it must have shielding and safety system in case of accident. Then you still have to built nuclear fuel handling and containment system

During fabrication another ton of quality assurance paper work must be satisfied then inspection etc

Conventional power use off the shelf component that is qualify based on previous experience and previous analysis. The code requirement is less strict. That is why nuclear power plant take so long and so expensive to built

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You can do all that in a specialized facility and just drop the nuclear island into the building ship. That's what you do if you want your nuclear ships fast. You might have two or three nuclear islands building for every building dock if building the island costs two or three times the time of building the ship.
Correction: the ship needs say two islands so correct the number of islands built in parallel.

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