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no_name

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hmmm if a fire is on board you have NO choice BUT to fight it.

Well yeah off course. But I was thinking more along the line of say a missile hit into the hangar, or maybe just a bad accident or ordnance going off for some reason. If suppose there is only a single source of fire, whether or not they can get it under control fast enough to save the majority of the planes. Reason I'm asking is because some serious accidents on the flight deck have gone out of control before with large loss of planes. Inside the hangar with confined space and many planes together it should be tougher to combat a fire.

So in case of combat and there is a hit to the hangar, Is the carrier still operational with firefighting at the same time? Or they will have to drop everything else and attend to the fire first? Are there precedences of this occurring before in carrier history?
 

A.Man

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CCTV Unedited J-15 Training Video

[video]http://news.cntv.cn/2013/07/08/VIDE1373275200611545.shtml[/video]
 

asif iqbal

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I have probably seen this like a 100 times but everytime I watched it it's very impressive, the fine detail on the Liaoning is amazing

A Chinese carrier strike group will be one of the most powerful groups, a force to reckon with
 

kwaigonegin

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Well yeah off course. But I was thinking more along the line of say a missile hit into the hangar, or maybe just a bad accident or ordnance going off for some reason. If suppose there is only a single source of fire, whether or not they can get it under control fast enough to save the majority of the planes. Reason I'm asking is because some serious accidents on the flight deck have gone out of control before with large loss of planes. Inside the hangar with confined space and many planes together it should be tougher to combat a fire.

So in case of combat and there is a hit to the hangar, Is the carrier still operational with firefighting at the same time? Or they will have to drop everything else and attend to the fire first? Are there precedences of this occurring before in carrier history?

Simple answer: You drop everything and fight the fire.

As to precedences I'm not sure what you mean. In WW II a lot of carriers caught on fire especially with the kamikazes. In Vietnam you have the famous USS Forrestal fire in 1967. A lot of people died and that fire happened on the flight deck.
A more recent fire was aboard the USS George Washington in 2008 in the Auxiliary Boiler Exhaust and Supply room which is inside the ship and ntihing to do with flight operations, ordnance exploding etc..
 

Jeff Head

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CCTV Unedited J-15 Training Video

[video]http://news.cntv.cn/2013/07/08/VIDE1373275200611545.shtml[/video]
Here is a video on youtube with the same clips...just in a different order:


[video=youtube;HUPVW2ep4oc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUPVW2ep4oc[/video]

This video shows the turntable pretty clearly in a couple of places. Aslo, stop the video when you see the J-15 completely on the elevator. Very, very little clearance there on the elevator between where the back tires sit on the outer portion of the elevator and the nose of the aircraft on the structural side.
 
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usaf0314

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[video=youtube;uLeUkkY122I]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=uLeUkkY122I[/video]
 

bd popeye

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hmmm if a fire is on board you have NO choice BUT to fight it. Either that or you abandon ship or die. Simple as that. If there is a fire inside the hanger then it's even more serious because of the planes, and possibly ordnance not to mention in a more confined and enclosed space than on the flight deck.

I am sure EVERY sailor in the world in any half way decent navy in the world are trained to fight fires. Heck they even teach you to fight fire right from the start in bootcamp!!

In USN bootcamp at Great Lakes they now have this fancy $60 million mock up of an AB destroyer call USS Trayer where young recruits are taught to fight fires and other exercises before they can graduate.

There is nothing more dangerous than fire aboard a ship which if you think about it is ironic because it's surround by water everywhere but that' probably it .. in a ship there is no where to run.

No that is 100% truth posted by an former US Navy sailor. OUTSTANDING!

I'd like to see some new photos of PLAN CV-16 sailors training in firefighting.
 

Jeff Head

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Are there any pics/videos of J-15s taking-off from the carrier with some payload ?
Nope...not yet that I am aware of.

That will come later. Right now they are qualifying new pilots to simply take off and land from the carrier in good weather and relatively calm sea-states.

Later, those qualified pilots will begin working up take offs and landings qualifying in various weather and sea state conditions. Then, they will probably start working them up qualifying with ordinance.

Lots of work to do...it will take time to get an entire air wing qualified to do everything. They really need to get more aircraft onboard so they can qualify more at these various tasks each time out.

They qualified a total of six pilots during this latest exercise.


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