That is a great pic, Deino.
I wish the one landing were a production aircraft, and that five more production J-15s were on deck while it was doing so.
Soon enough I suppose.
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I wish the one landing were a production aircraft, and that five more production J-15s were on deck while it was doing so.
Soon enough I suppose.
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LHA is very useful and obviously help fills certain gaps in capabilities however for true power projection nothing beats a flat top with fixed wing aircraft.
Until drone technology can actually replace manned strike fighters (not anytime soon) nothing beats a carrier PERIOD!
Besides drone for the most part uses the same type of engines as any other plane so you will still need a flat top to launch drones of any significant capabilities.
She's going pretty slow, which makes landing on her more difficult. On the other side the sea is flat, which makes it less difficult than it might have been.
It is interesting to contrast the Chinese Carrier program to the INdian one. Both are using former Russian carriers. The Russians had to refit the Indian one...the Chinese refit theirs themselves.
The Indians are having to buy their strike aircraft from the Russians. The Chinese built their own indegenous, improved version of a Russian aircraft.
At the same time, you have to give the Indians credit for getting their carrier and the aircraft and then moving rapidly to get their air wing on the carrier and operating.
Perhaps next year we shall see the PLAN doing something similar with the Liaoning and the J-15s as what the Indians are doing now on the Virkamaditya.
Here are some photos of the Vikramaditya performing air operations. You can see seven aircraft lined up on deck in one of the pics...and you can see six in the hanger in another. They are probably operating 10-12 Mig-29Ks off of the Vikramaditya now.
Here's the full video:
[video=youtube;t9WxdLyL-_A]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9WxdLyL-_A[/video]
As I said...perhaps we shall see this level of activity on the Liaoning next year some time.
The Indians are having to buy their strike aircraft from the Russians. The Chinese built their own indegenous, improved version of a Russian aircraft.
At the same time, you have to give the Indians credit for getting their carrier and the aircraft and then moving rapidly to get their air wing on the carrier and operating.
Perhaps next year we shall see the PLAN doing something similar with the Liaoning and the J-15s as what the Indians are doing now on the Virkamaditya.
Here are some photos of the Vikramaditya performing air operations. You can see seven aircraft lined up on deck in one of the pics...and you can see six in the hanger in another. They are probably operating 10-12 Mig-29Ks off of the Vikramaditya now.
Here's the full video:
[video=youtube;t9WxdLyL-_A]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9WxdLyL-_A[/video]
As I said...perhaps we shall see this level of activity on the Liaoning next year some time.
PLAN has been recieving J-15's since the end of last year and no doubt the Chinese pilots are training hard with those planes in their land based facility. While the Liaoning is undergoing major maintenance. She will leave the shipyard somewhere at the end of this year most likely november. If we are lucky we can see an air wing of 12 to 16 planes on her deck somewhere early next year.
Well, I expect we will see 4-6 aircraft within a few months of her coming out of maintenance (depending on the weather) as those pilots get qualified on the carrier itself and qualify the production aircraft.
They will slowly increase the numbers from there.
I do expect it is possible to see 12 J-15s on the Liaoning before the end of 2015 if they work hard at it and have the production aircraft available.
Clearly, the Indians, as Bltizo stated, had good numbers of production aircraft already for many months. They had already officially stood up and put in service a squadron before the carrier ever got there. They clearly were preparing and ready for the carrier to get to them and almost immediately went out and began qualifying their pilots on the carrier itself. Now, six months later, they are operational and flying at least seven off of the deck. It is clear from the video that they can park at least five forward of the island, and seven behind the island, and still conduct flight operations. We have not seen 12 on deck...only seven to date. They may have more in the hanger.
The Chinese will be doing this same type of thing (we hope and anticipate) after the Liaoning comes out of maintenance...either late in the year, or next year.
Yah! what he said! oh and keep those stinkin drones for other than intel gathering, and get em out of the continental US.
This is normal in case anyone was wondering. Non-skid does wear out.
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