PLAN Aircraft Carrier programme...(Closed)

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It pertains to Chinese carrier catapult development. Specifically, it says the domestic carrier will have steam catapults because EMALS is regarded as not yet mature enough.

The source is 'POP3 master'. Does anyone know if he's reliable or credible? In other words, does he have a good track record?
 
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by78 said:
Help me out.

I stumbled on this thread:
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It pertains to Chinese carrier catapult development. Specifically, it says the domestic carrier will have steam catapults because EMALS is regarded as not yet mature enough.

The source is 'POP3 master'. Does anyone know if he's reliable or credible?
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There are good technical and financial reasons not to believe him. China has a good system to get aircraft into the air, the ski ramp. The EM cat is the preferred technology and a combination of EM cat and ski ramp would be very good on possible smaller carriers ( compare USN carriers and its America class ). Steam cats are to bridge the gap until the EM cat is developed, at a costs equivalent to hundreds of millions of dollars for say five years? How many years would it take to develop the steam cats from where China is now? Perhaps more than will be necessary to complete the EM cat development.
 
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by78 said:
Help me out.

I stumbled on this thread:
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y j s.cn/bbs/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=999459&extra=page%3D1

It pertains to Chinese carrier catapult development. Specifically, it says the domestic carrier will have steam catapults because EMALS is regarded as not yet mature enough.

The source is 'POP3 master'. Does anyone know if he's reliable or credible? In other words, does he have a good track record?
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According to this post, Navy's second carrier, along with the initial one currently being constructed at Dalian, is being built as well. That makes two carriers, one with ski ramp and one possibly without. pop3 is a very reliable military insider.
 
bd popeye

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SinoSoldier said:
According to this post, Navy's second carrier, along with the initial one currently being constructed at Dalian, is being built as well. That makes two carriers, one with ski ramp and one possibly without. pop3 is a very reliable military insider.
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I'd really like to see some photos of these ships under construction. After all we've seen photos of every PLAN class ship under construction except subs..so what gives? Shown me something.. anything!

And building a carrier is no secret task.
 
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bd popeye said:
Franklin I agree. The media aboard a ship is sometimes a nuisance. Been there done that!

However.. why can't the PLAN use it's own photographers similar to other armed services of the World? Like the USN for instance...What's the problem? I'm assuming the PLAN is holding it's cards close to their chest.

Well as per usual we have to wait and see. :rolleyes:
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I wonder if the PLAN does use their own photographers that people outside of China would accuse them of "faking" it or PS.
 
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SinoSoldier said:
According to this post, Navy's second carrier, along with the initial one currently being constructed at Dalian, is being built as well. That makes two carriers, one with ski ramp and one possibly without. pop3 is a very reliable military insider.
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**** seems to be down so I can't really read the post myself, but if it's true it dovetails rather nicely with that report from that HK magazine.

bd popeye said:
I'd really like to see some photos of these ships under construction. After all we've seen photos of every PLAN class ship under construction except subs..so what gives? Shown me something.. anything!

And building a carrier is no secret task.
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As I said to a friend, if they're really building two they will show up in pictures eventually, maybe in another two or three years.

EDIT: Finally read post. Unless I'm missing something pop3 didn't say a thing about two carriers.

delft said:
There are good technical and financial reasons not to believe him. China has a good system to get aircraft into the air, the ski ramp. The EM cat is the preferred technology and a combination of EM cat and ski ramp would be very good on possible smaller carriers ( compare USN carriers and its America class ). Steam cats are to bridge the gap until the EM cat is developed, at a costs equivalent to hundreds of millions of dollars for say five years? How many years would it take to develop the steam cats from where China is now? Perhaps more than will be necessary to complete the EM cat development.
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Unless China has continued investing in steam cats and has actually managed to get them working, which means that money has already been spent. That's what pop3 is implying.

Interestingly pop3 also states that an EMALS has already begun testing. The rail was tested in 2010, and something was launched/flown in 2011
 
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by78

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latenlazy said:
**** seems to be down so I can't really read the post myself, but if it's true it dovetails rather nicely with that report from that HK magazine.
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It's back up now. Please let me know what you think.

It seems POP3 gets a lot of attention whenever he speaks, so he must be some kind of insider. I wonder what his track record is on 'predicting' PLAN related matters.
 
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by78 said:
It's back up now. Please let me know what you think.

It seems POP3 gets a lot of attention whenever he speaks, so he must be some kind of insider. I wonder what his track record is on 'predicting' PLAN related matters.
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Darn it...nevermind, I still couldn't get in.:confused:
 
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