PLAN Aircraft Carrier programme...(Closed)

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kwaigonegin said:

Jeff, I believe those look like illuminators probably for practice landing takeoff or some sort of a visual guide for the pilots etc. I'm 99% sure they are not part of the deck... and was manually placed there.

As to the 'pylon' question by B.I.B I think I know what you're talking about now. It's probably just run of the mill type sensors, wind gauge, barometric sensors , radio antennas etc. Call it the pitot tube for Liaoning LOL

Nothing exotic of top secret there.

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Yes, that foreward bow mounted, horizontal support off the starboard side there is for pretty normal stuff. Nothing too exciting there.

Those other little reflectors are odd though.

We do not see them when aircraft are taking off. We have only seen them at other times. I know that the Liaoning would not be attempting any take offs during those rougher seas, so I still wonder what they are far.

When I do a close up, they look like to have hinges on the bottom, with a recess in the deck underneath them where they could fold down. Take a closer look and see if you see that too.

Anyhow, I am sure it is nothing earth shattering in any case, I am just not sure of their purpose.

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the position of the reflector line looks similar to "safe shot line" on American carrier flight deck. what's the purpose of safe shot line?
note the line formed by the reflectors is parallel to the port side takeoff line. the port side forward position seems to be favorite takeoff position at this period of Liaoning operation.

Safe Shot Line :
On a carrier's flight deck, a painted line delimiting the area which must be clear for an aircraft to be safely launched ('shot') by the associated catapult. Compare with 'FOUL LINE.'




I wasn't asking a rhetorical question. the question was posed to the forum. I did an internet search, found a possible answer and added additional informations.

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shen said:

the position of the reflector line looks similar to "safe shot line" on American carrier flight deck.

note the line formed by the reflectors is parallel to the port side takeoff line. the port side forward position seems to be favorite takeoff position at this period of Liaoning operation.

Safe Shot Line :

On a carrier's flight deck, a painted line delimiting the area which must be clear for an aircraft to be safely launched ('shot') by the associated catapult.

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I am very familiar with safe shot lines. They are where other aircraft absolutely have to be spotted behind in order to allow safe cats take offs from various cats.

But these are painted on the deck so there can never be any mistake about an aircraft, or any part of an aircraft extending past it. I do not see any lines on the deck between these reflectors or markers on the Liaoning.

But an interesting possibility none the less.

I would recommend that they pain it on, though at this time they are not in danger of spotting any aircraft forward of the launch positions during flight operations because they have not had enough aircraft on deck at one time to make it an issue anyway.

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These objects below appear some sort of firefighting apparatus. They look portable. I have to wonder..does this ship have bulk head mounted fire stations in the catwalks, island and in the island?

I'd really like to see two things aboard CV-16.. a rig the barricade drill and a flight deck firefighting drill.

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bd popeye said:

These objects below appear some sort of firefighting apparatus. They look portable. I have to wonder..does this ship have bulk head mounted fire stations in the catwalks, island and in the island?

I'd really like to see two things aboard CV-16.. a rig the barricade drill and a flight deck firefighting drill.

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not for Liaoning, but this is a joint firefighting exercise by PLAN and Pakistani navy. a four men fast reaction team with portable CO2 extinguisher reached the fire first, but that wasn't enough, 3mins later, another four men team with two high pressure firehoses reach the scene and finish the fire.

Thanks for posting. However this is what I want to see...

[video=youtube;3biUiritcTU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3biUiritcTU[/video]

So far we've not seen this from CV-16.

...and this..

[video=youtube;aI262szoD54]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aI262szoD54[/video]

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Jeff Head said:

Oh I see, you are talking about the horizontal support right on the starboard bow. That does not raise. It may fold back against the hull, though I have not seen it in that position. If holds some sensors, lights, cameras, and other equipment out from the bow there.

I would still like to know what purpose those small raised sqaaure like items are.

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These small raised square form a reasonably straight line, but their spacing is uneven. This suggests they are temporary markers manually placed on deck, and are not part of any fixture. They appear to align parallel with the ship's axis.

I wonder if they are reflecting targets for some calibration equipment.

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chuck731 said:

They appear to align parallel with the ship's axis.

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They are going parallel with the take-off-run like a fool line.

Franklin said:

So far we have only seen 552, 553 and 554 land on the Liaoning. I hope we get to see 555 and 556 and perhabs even 551 land on the Liaoning as well.

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it doesn't mean they (551, 555 and 556) haven't landed on the Liaoning

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chuck731 said:

These small raised square form a reasonably straight line, but their spacing is uneven. This suggests they are temporary markers manually placed on deck, and are not part of any fixture. They appear to align parallel with the ship's axis.

I wonder if they are reflecting targets for some calibration equipment.

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Bingo!, Chuck, I think you have nailed it, it is likely an automated system to help you hold runway centerline in a low visability departure, I imagine there is a display in the cockpit that helps you maintain your track as you depart, since the departure does not have any hard objects other than the bow to help you maintain centerline. It may even be fully automated???