PLAN Aircraft Carrier programme...(Closed)

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asif iqbal

asif iqbal

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bd popeye said:
PLAN ship Liaoning (CV-16) making a turn.. don't know how old the photo is.

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I stand corrected, I just noticed that there is four parking spaces aft of the island behind the elevator

There is 7 infront of the island and two on the port side

So that's 4+7+2= 13 J15 aircraft parking places on the deck of the Liaoning and I'm sure that PLAN is training to do take off, landing and touch and goes with a full deck, eventually they can build it up and we can expect to see the carriers deck filled with aircraft while air oops are going on, that would be a serious sight too see

No doubt helicopters will also be included but this is only the J-15, considering the inherit design flaws they have done well to squeeze in 13 aircraft on the deck

That means 11 J-15 in the hanger, I would think they could manage 20+ J-15 in the hanger if push came to shove which would mean Liaoning could lift more than 30+ J-15 if it came to it

Also means Chinas next carrier will have a capability larger than this, this could mean the next indigenous carrier could carry either 36 fighter aircraft or even two full Sqaudrons of 48!
 
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Gorthaur

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asif iqbal said:
Do we have any close up pictures of the 3rd deflector? The one opposite the island?
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I haven't seen one. Probably it was tested as the one on the starboard which is also scarce on the pictures. Is there any pictures of scorch marks on those deflectors?
 
Intrepid

Intrepid

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bd popeye said:
And I still think the J-15 is too large to be a training aircraft.
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Don't call it training, name it type rating and carrier familarisation for existing fighter-pilots.

For ski jump you need aircraft with a large wing area and a good power-to-weight ratio. I think there is no typical trainer with that specification. Later on the catapults we will see small training aircraft.
 
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Lion

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Intrepid said:
For ski jump you need aircraft with a large wing area and a good power-to-weight ratio. I think there is no typical trainer with that specification. Later on the catapults we will see small training aircraft.
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J-10 suits the spec.
 
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J-10 only have 1 engine, thats a problem by carrier borne aircrafts. After the "Starfighter-Desaster" the german Air Force for exaple only use dubble-engine-fighters.
To compare
SU-30 MKK
Loaded weight: 24,900 kg (54,900 lb)
powered by two AL-31F turbofan engines designed by the Lyulka Engine Design Bureau (NPO Saturn), each rated at 17,857lb st (79.43kN) dry and 27,557lb st (122.58kN) with afterburning.

L-15 Advanced Jet Trainer
Weight: Normal take-off 6,500kg
Powered by two DV-2F or AI-222K-25F turbofan engines with afterburner, maximum thrust: 24.7 kN (2,518.70 kgf) for takeoff mode;
Thrust-to-weight ratio: 5.68

So the L-15 could be the new Carrier Trainer ....
 
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Lion

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USN has no problem running single engine like A-4 and F-8 Crusader on Carrier.
J-10 huge wing surface area favour lift and is good for STOBAR. Deploy with canard, it could quickly reduce landing speed same like J-15.
 
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Lion said:
USN has no problem running single engine like A-4 and F-8 Crusader on Carrier.
J-10 huge wing surface area favour lift and is good for STOBAR. Deploy with canard, it could quickly reduce landing speed same like J-15.
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That is correct, there have been several very successful single engine US Navy attack and fighter aircraft:

F-3H Demon (1956-1964)
A-4 Skyhawk (1956-2003)
F-8 Crusader (1957-1987)
A-7 Corsair II (1964-1993)

Now, the largest procurement program in US history, for the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter will produce the next generation single engine fighter/attack aircraft for the US Navy and Marines.
 
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