PLA strike strategies in westpac HIC

clockwork

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Whatever happened to Patchwork Chimera on reddit by the way? One day his account suddenly got banned for I don't know what reason. I don't know if you still keep in touch with him, but I quite liked his posts and he seemed to be one of the few guys who actually knows what he's talking about. It's a shame he got banned, does he post on here?
I wanted to ask too if he had another alt but don't get your hopes up lol. Was clearly revealing too much, obviously told by someone to shut the hell up. Just like those tankers baited by foreign intelligence on war thunder forums arguments into revealing munitions specs.
 

clockwork

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The English Wikipedia page on the Type 094-class SSBN is terribly out-of-date.

According to my sources which includes the Chinese Wikipedia page (not Baidu Baike) on the Type 094-class SSBN, the Type 094-class SSBN has at least two variants - The original Type 094, and the improved Type 094A.

This diagram by H.I. Sutton summarizes the difference between these two variants well.
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In short, the Type 094A has a higher turtleback that is used to house SLBMs compared to the original Type 094.

This means while the original Type 094 could only carry JL-2 with a 7200 kilometer-range, the improved Type 094A is capable of carrying the larger JL-2A, which is the missile you mentioned that has a range of 11200 kilometers.

As a sidenote, the Chinese Wikipedia page (not Baidu Baike) on the Type 094-class SSBN also mentioned that the Type 094A can also carry the newer JL-3, which has an even greater range of at least 12000-13000 kilometers.
Yup the 094 is confirmed to carry a new SLBM that ranges CONUS from the SCS, only USSTRATCOM calls it the JL-3 for some reason (it's probably not).
 

ACuriousPLAFan

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The 11,200 km always struck me as a rather strange number. It's almost exactly the distance between the Bohai Sea and Washington, DC. That can't be a coincidence. I think the missile has longer range than that, but that number is given as a "word to the wise."
The PLAN is very secretive about their submarine forces, even more so than their American and Russian counterparts, due to matters of national security. The PLAN doesn't even disclose how many submarines that are in active service in their submarine force right now, so don't expect to hear any exact figures from them regarding those SLBMs.

But I am pretty confident that the actual ranges for those Ju-Lang SLBMs would be at least 1000 kilometers more than the publically available figure.

Although, PLAN isn't the only one doing this. Even the USN has classified the actual range of their Trident II SLBMs. The best guess for them would be at least 12000 kilometers.
 
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Hendrik_2000

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Here is an excellent article that discuss the application of AI in detecting and tracking submarine I could herald the end of behemoth era
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In the past, Chinese analysts have had to pore over a massive number of satellite images to locate
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, Heath said. By using artificial intelligence, the Chinese military could greatly accelerate that process.

Even if this particular story about how China tracked the Harry S. Truman turns out not to be true, military analysts have long expected that artificial intelligence would make it much easier for China and other adversaries to sift through satellite images and identify targets, he said.

“I think there is an understanding that the future battlefield is going to be highly transparent in the sense that the proliferation of satellites and AI [artificial intelligence] will make it increasingly difficult for major combatant ships like a carrier to hide. In fact, it’s almost a given that the days of the carrier on the modern battlefield may be numbered.”
 

Tempest

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Whatever happened to Patchwork Chimera on reddit by the way? One day his account suddenly got banned for I don't know what reason. I don't know if you still keep in touch with him, but I quite liked his posts and he seemed to be one of the few guys who actually knows what he's talking about. It's a shame he got banned, does he post on here?
Haha he decided the community over there wasn't worth the time and effort. His account wasn't banned, he deleted it. I don't think he has an account on here, but he does lurk. We're working on a fairly sizable project together at the moment, so perhaps I'll implore him to make an account.
 

ZeEa5KPul

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Haha he decided the community over there wasn't worth the time and effort. His account wasn't banned, he deleted it. I don't think he has an account on here, but he does lurk. We're working on a fairly sizable project together at the moment, so perhaps I'll implore him to make an account.
Quick question, buddy: How does it make you feel knowing people like Peter Zeihan are making megabucks selling their China "expertise", and that they're the standard by which American strategic thought is judged?
 

Blitzo

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can't say I blame him lol. Poor guy was writing multi thousand word posts back to back to back. Reddit's """military enthusiast""" community is pretty laughable save for you, Y8s, and a couple others.

I haven't done effort posts in a long time for that reason.
Though deleting his account seemed a bit much, though more power to him
 

Tempest

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Quick question, buddy: How does it make you feel knowing people like Peter Zeihan are making megabucks selling their China "expertise", and that they're the standard by which American strategic thought is judged?
The more the merrier. For every Ian Easton, there are a thousand Ian Easton readers who make for great dunk victims. Milshit has always been a seedbed for laughable public discourse, that will never change.
 
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