My understanding is that China’s older “anti stealth” radars are mainly just for early warning. The newer models are supposedly able to get a weapons grade lock either because they’re AESAs or because they’re multimodal, but I am not sure those are on the export market, and if they are whether they have been sold to anyone yet.
PLA Strategy in a Taiwan Contingency
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but the truth is china really sell radar to venezuela , in mass propagranda/information warfare : quantity > quality . the mass don't care about technical complicated reason why this weapon system fail , why that system not
they only care about which one come out on top
and the way china sell weapon to other countries then don't care anymore basically offer china's enemy easy way to defeat those weapon
because the buyer didn't get much help from china in term of training , technical complicated co-op , regular update etc to use those weapon system effectively
and by that they lose and fail > china's weapon take a big PR hit , every defense reason after that are no use because the dmg already done
meanwhile you can just look at pakistan , china support pakistan well in term of how to use chinese weapon good > they success big time , give china weapon / military tech / industry a biggest PR victory since the end of korean war . shock entire work , silent tons of china hater
and now you look at US/west . clearly you can see the west care about their military PR image alot . so whatever time they sell someone weapon they clearly do alot of support or work than china ...specially when they send weapon to some nation highly likely gonna fight west's enemy in future/near future (israel , ukraine , taiwan , japan , korea , australia , even philipines)
and if they unable to support then they put in alot of restriction for the country got western/US weapon :
like if you failed in combat : hide + censor any wreckage remain as fast as possible , as soon as possible , never let those speard widely on internet
if you not sure you can win or atleast do big dmg then don't use our weapon to fight them , keep those weapon safe behind
or never use store HE shell in our tank to avoid turret toss
or don't use out F-16 in direct air-combat with russia/india (ukraine/pakistan case)
china don't do anything like that and this is dog eat dog , might make right world . there are no heaven being above to judge both side fairly > the side who never miss any chance to fked up enemy in all term all kind of warfare alway win .
that why we have this kind of mess now not even long after pakistan chinese weapon victory , clearly US/west/allied know china weakness very well and they (+india) clearly aim to destroy that rare and only PR victory china have
The only people who believe this propaganda are all the same people who believed all the other old propaganda too. The same people who always knew it was all bullshit before still know it's all bullshit now. Nothing has changed.
if you want to get in mainland china internet , social media , you must use vpn same as chinese doing the same but with outside
there are no chinese version of youtube , no face/book , twitter , social media in english run by chinese company to ..."sway" people in other country thinking (tiktok alone not enough)
meanwhile ....entire SEA population can just go to youtube , countless social media , new site on US/west internet no vpn need + understand some basic english > got their thinking sway alot by US/western/india/japan propagranda
this is the result . our gov quite pro-china but they alone can't do much ....
meanwhile you just look at western hemisphere , US fked over everybody there all the way from arctic to antarctica . countless regime change , invasion , coup ....countless dead
but because they control entire english media network > sway alot of people thinking
beside cuba you don't see any mid , south america nation anti-US so bad like the way SEA nation vs china
specially in term of fk tons of people learn english go on internet help china speard anti-US news like the way SEA/indian do with china to help US/west/japan
US/west propagranda today so damn success to the point , alot of time they don't even need to do that themselves ...they just pay SEA/india population peanut . people willing to jump head first in and help them
manqiangrexue
Brigadier
What is your point? China sold some things to Venezuela 20 years ago. They did not evolve into a force like Pakistan. So the West will make propaganda against Chinese weapons. That is simply what happened? What is your suggestion, to never sell second tier arms to even friendly countries as long as you don't believe they can defeat to US with them?
the problem of many chinese people are : they still think like hundred or thousand years ago
demand out side people they want to sway come to learn instead of spend any effort to help outside people understand the issue easier/faster
meanwhile ....the west/US/japan or anyone else dislike china do extractly 180 degree around
they do every fking thing they can to help anyone outside or not familiar with the matter understand their idea , their point of view , join their side both politically and culturally
what kind of result chinese people expect out of this warfare ? magic happen and people around the world suddenly become clear mind understand china and switch side ?
....very funny
demand out side people they want to sway come to learn instead of spend any effort to help outside people understand the issue easier/faster
meanwhile ....the west/US/japan or anyone else dislike china do extractly 180 degree around
they do every fking thing they can to help anyone outside or not familiar with the matter understand their idea , their point of view , join their side both politically and culturally
what kind of result chinese people expect out of this warfare ? magic happen and people around the world suddenly become clear mind understand china and switch side ?
....very funny
i already put in suggestion . if you can not support/help then put in restriction , if you can't put in restriction then don't sell
and if you still want to sell ....well then you better support your buyer well , or atleast find a way to help them do some big dmg exchange in combat (don't even need to win)
manqiangrexue
Brigadier
The problem with you is you can't mind your own business and go deal with the multitudes of issues with your own country but you have to be a backseat driver for a country that is immeasureably more successful.
What's very funny is all the unwanted suggestions you have for a country that does everything better than yours. China's not a cartoon character lapdog like Japan and it's not a sleezeball liar like the US. Upstanding and educated people will find the truth with a gentle nudge. Hateful uneducated bigots aren't worth rolling in the mud to curry favor with. That's just how China rolls; go find a vassal you like better.
But your suggestion is stupid. A friendly nation comes with cash and you tell them you won't sell them any weapons because you think they'll get canned by the US? And most of the time, the US doesn't even do anything. So you're just screwing yourself out of income while telling a would-be friend that they're better off in the US camp. Why? Cus you're scared of Twitter trolls. This is your suggestion?
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The number of people who continually conflate reality with social media—including but not limited to the highest levels of US government—is as sad an indictment as any for the times we live in. Thank god not every government is so insane.
Bro, the reason you are able to even post this in Vietnam, is due to Chinese aid. If China delayed Soviet aid for even a month, would North Vietnam have been able to reunify the South?
Let me put it this way: if China was all that weak the first country that will suffer is Vietnam.