PLA Strategy in a Taiwan Contingency

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votran

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the problem of many chinese people are : they still think like hundred or thousand years ago

demand out side people they want to sway come to learn instead of spend any effort to help outside people understand the issue easier/faster

meanwhile ....the west/US/japan or anyone else dislike china do extractly 180 degree around

they do every fking thing they can to help anyone outside or not familiar with the matter understand their idea , their point of view , join their side both politically and culturally

what kind of result chinese people expect out of this warfare ? magic happen and people around the world suddenly become clear mind understand china and switch side ?

....very funny
 
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manqiangrexue said:
What is your point? China sold some things to Venezuela 20 years ago. They did not evolve into a force like Pakistan. So the West will make propaganda against Chinese weapons. That is simply what happened? What is your suggestion, to never sell second tier arms to even friendly countries as long as you don't believe they can defeat to US with them?
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i already put in suggestion . if you can not support/help then put in restriction , if you can't put in restriction then don't sell

and if you still want to sell ....well then you better support your buyer well , or atleast find a way to help them do some big dmg exchange in combat (don't even need to win)
 
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votran said:
the problem of many chinese people are : they still think like hundred or thousand years ago
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The problem with you is you can't mind your own business and go deal with the multitudes of issues with your own country but you have to be a backseat driver for a country that is immeasureably more successful.
votran said:
demand out side people they want to sway come to learn instead of spend any effort to help outside people understand the issue easier/faster

meanwhile ....the west/US/japan or anyone else dislike china do extractly 180 degree around

they do every fking thing they can to help anyone outside or not familiar with the matter understand their idea , their point of view , join their side both politically and culturally

what kind of result chinese people expect out of this warfare ? magic happen and people around the world suddenly become clear mind understand china and switch side ?

....very funny
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What's very funny is all the unwanted suggestions you have for a country that does everything better than yours. China's not a cartoon character lapdog like Japan and it's not a sleezeball liar like the US. Upstanding and educated people will find the truth with a gentle nudge. Hateful uneducated bigots aren't worth rolling in the mud to curry favor with. That's just how China rolls; go find a vassal you like better.
votran said:
i already put in suggestion . if you can not support/help then put in restriction , if you can't put in restriction then don't sell

and if you still want to sell ....well then you better support your buyer well , or atleast find a way to help them do some big dmg exchange in combat (don't even need to win)
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But your suggestion is stupid. A friendly nation comes with cash and you tell them you won't sell them any weapons because you think they'll get canned by the US? And most of the time, the US doesn't even do anything. So you're just screwing yourself out of income while telling a would-be friend that they're better off in the US camp. Why? Cus you're scared of Twitter trolls. This is your suggestion?
 
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manqiangrexue said:
But your suggestion is stupid. A friendly nation comes with cash and you tell them you won't sell them any weapons because you think they'll get canned by the US? And most of the time, the US doesn't even do anything. So you're just screwing yourself out of income while telling a would-be friend that they're better off in the US camp. Why? Cus you're scared of Twitter trolls. This is your suggestion?
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The number of people who continually conflate reality with social media—including but not limited to the highest levels of US government—is as sad an indictment as any for the times we live in. Thank god not every government is so insane.
 
FairAndUnbiased

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votran said:
if you want to get in mainland china internet , social media , you must use vpn same as chinese doing the same but with outside

there are no chinese version of youtube , no face/book , twitter , social media in english run by chinese company to ..."sway" people in other country thinking (tiktok alone not enough)

meanwhile ....entire SEA population can just go to youtube , countless social media , new site on US/west internet no vpn need + understand some basic english > got their thinking sway alot by US/western/india/japan propagranda

this is the result . our gov quite pro-china but they alone can't do much ....

meanwhile you just look at western hemisphere , US fked over everybody there all the way from arctic to antarctica . countless regime change , invasion , coup ....countless dead

but because they control entire english media network > sway alot of people thinking

beside cuba you don't see any mid , south america nation anti-US so bad like the way SEA nation vs china

specially in term of fk tons of people learn english go on internet help china speard anti-US news like the way SEA/indian do with china to help US/west/japan

US/west propagranda today so damn success to the point , alot of time they don't even need to do that themselves ...they just pay SEA/india population peanut . people willing to jump head first in and help them
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Bro, the reason you are able to even post this in Vietnam, is due to Chinese aid. If China delayed Soviet aid for even a month, would North Vietnam have been able to reunify the South?

Let me put it this way: if China was all that weak the first country that will suffer is Vietnam.
 
bsdnf

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In my opinion, it just another boomerang-like situation, because Taiwan's radar is really outdated, not much better than Venezuela's, while the PLAAF does have a large number of EWs and stealth aircraft.
 
lcloo

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Gloire_bb said:
Theory of super long range gun is more or less known for a while. Bull wasn't single globe-level genuis.
It's just a tertiary mission set, that few are seriously interested in as to pay for it, with other, more available ways to do same job. If China is interested - I won't be surprised: US presence pattern in Far East just begs for it. Plus it greatly optimizes SRBM/MRBM use.
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Check this out . China was already testing superguns way back before 2013 as per our forum.

Chinese Supergun?

Satellite imagery reveals mystery 'supergun' in Chinese desert Sean O'Connor, Indianapolis - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly Satellite imagery reveals mystery 'supergun' in Chinese desert - IHS Jane's 360 Satellite imagery has revealed two unusually large artillery pieces, measuring...
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If anything Trump has just helped prove that a quick decapitation strike on Taiwan can work. AND they just provided moral justification

If they bribe the right people, it's probably even easier due to the much shorter distance. We may not have a full blown armed reunification or blockade after all.
 
Dante80

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There is no radar - Chinese or otherwise, modern or vintage - that can live through a targeted US SEAD/DEAD campaign with hundreds of assets, like the one we saw. Nothing is surviving this.

I don't understand what we are even discussing.

Of course there will be trolls in social media that assert this raid means China radars are bad. Why are people getting triggered? If you have even a rudimentary understanding of how things work in real life, you know that this is not the case. And so do also the people that are actually involved in weapon procurement and acquisition around the world.

Grow a thicker skin and move on.
 
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