PLA Strategy in a Taiwan Contingency

Biscuits

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PLA plane appearances in Taiwan's ADIZ increased 80% in 2024 compared to 2022 or 2023

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An interesting article on how Europe could be involved in a Taiwan contingency. TLDR it's through submarines, but hinges on several preconditions, from the nature of war to existence of agreements between allies
So if the article advises Europe to help US' war of aggression by directly firing on Chinese ships in the Indian ocean, there's also nothing preventing the PLAGF from sacking the Baltics. Or for air/missile bases in Xinjiang to fly out and destroy European infrastructure.

How powerful are EU's ground forces compared to the PLAGF?
 

Bellum_Romanum

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So if the article advises Europe to help US' war of aggression by directly firing on Chinese ships in the Indian ocean, there's also nothing preventing the PLAGF from sacking the Baltics. Or for air/missile bases in Xinjiang to fly out and destroy European infrastructure.

How powerful are EU's ground forces compared to the PLAGF?
So powerful that they couldn't beat the sandal wearing goat herders of Afghanistan.

For all the dismissive talk about China's lack of combat experience what's EU forces claim to fame? Unless they're prepared to send the already exhausted troops of Ukraine to be used as meat shield against PLA entire military menu and I for one would welcome that so that China can finally shut the EU delusions for good.
 

Overbom

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So if the article advises Europe to help US' war of aggression by directly firing on Chinese ships in the Indian ocean, there's also nothing preventing the PLAGF from sacking the Baltics. Or for air/missile bases in Xinjiang to fly out and destroy European infrastructure.

How powerful are EU's ground forces compared to the PLAGF?
J-36 is a solid step, but unfortunately we will probably have to wait until 7th Gen to be able to credibly threaten Europe.

When a Chinese aircraft can reach Europe by flying from Xinjiang, Europe should be bombed back to stone age. Especially some certain Baltic countries


Europe can help Taiwan as much as Philippines can help Taiwan. That's all
 

Biscuits

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J-36 is a solid step, but unfortunately we will probably have to wait until 7th Gen to be able to credibly threaten Europe.
That would be true if Europe had as much air defenses and ground forces/draftable ground forces as China.

But most of Europe doesn't. I think Poland has a slightly higher concentration of air defenses, but still lower than Ukraine.
When a Chinese aircraft can reach Europe by flying from Xinjiang, Europe should be bombed back to stone age. Especially some certain Baltic countries

Europe can help Taiwan as much as Philippines can help Taiwan. That's all
Doesn't need to reach Europe without refuel from Xinjiang. China can send a land army and borrow Russia's bases. Most of the PLAGF won't be used to hold Taiwan since its an island.

If EU plans to support US aggression war, they also need to gather enough troops to hold their borders against a hypothetical PLA sudden thrust. Otherwise they might face losing everything at home. China can easily gather 200-300k strong counteroffensive group, with top1 land warfare equipment. I don't see how Baltics can hold against that.
 

supersnoop

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So powerful that they couldn't beat the sandal wearing goat herders of Afghanistan.

For all the dismissive talk about China's lack of combat experience what's EU forces claim to fame? Unless they're prepared to send the already exhausted troops of Ukraine to be used as meat shield against PLA entire military menu and I for one would welcome that so that China can finally shut the EU delusions for good.
The delusion is common to all western countries, look at this guy who advocates for poking the PRC over Taiwan
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Also advocating for military readiness
It stresses that Canada should work with like-minded democracies in the Indo-Pacific and commits almost $500 million over five years to enhance military and intelligence cooperation with regional allies.

In October 2021, the Royal Canadian Navy frigate HMCS Winnipeg sailed through the Taiwan Strait with a U.S. warship to demonstrate freedom of navigation in international waters.

With a rational mind, this strategy is just batsh*t crazy. In order to maintain peace, do all the things that will anger the other side. This guy probably also advocates driving the nicest car possible with multiple Rolexes on your wrist through bad neighborhoods to avoid being a victim of crime.

My friend who only recently left the CF reserves, I used to laughingly call him "Future Canadian military liaison to President Vegetable English".
 

A potato

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The delusion is common to all western countries, look at this guy who advocates for poking the PRC over Taiwan
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Also advocating for military readiness


With a rational mind, this strategy is just batsh*t crazy. In order to maintain peace, do all the things that will anger the other side. This guy probably also advocates driving the nicest car possible with multiple Rolexes on your wrist through bad neighborhoods to avoid being a victim of crime.

My friend who only recently left the CF reserves, I used to laughingly call him "Future Canadian military liaison to President Vegetable English".
About this did any Chinese Canadian who served in Afghanistan or any other deployments will they be angry about this?
 

siegecrossbow

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The delusion is common to all western countries, look at this guy who advocates for poking the PRC over Taiwan
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Also advocating for military readiness


With a rational mind, this strategy is just batsh*t crazy. In order to maintain peace, do all the things that will anger the other side. This guy probably also advocates driving the nicest car possible with multiple Rolexes on your wrist through bad neighborhoods to avoid being a victim of crime.

My friend who only recently left the CF reserves, I used to laughingly call him "Future Canadian military liaison to President Vegetable English".

They think that the whole thing is just a big video game and that they can just reload a save when things go wrong.
 

tokenanalyst

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The delusion is common to all western countries, look at this guy who advocates for poking the PRC over Taiwan
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Also advocating for military readiness


With a rational mind, this strategy is just batsh*t crazy. In order to maintain peace, do all the things that will anger the other side. This guy probably also advocates driving the nicest car possible with multiple Rolexes on your wrist through bad neighborhoods to avoid being a victim of crime.

My friend who only recently left the CF reserves, I used to laughingly call him "Future Canadian military liaison to President Vegetable English".
The good thing is that China has made it clear with huge a bright redline: Taiwan Independence Means Total War. China may willing to accept the "Two Systems One Country" principle BUT there is one China and one China only whatever they like it or not, any nation is free to decide with who government they want to maintain diplomatic relations, they can choose the Mainland government or the Taiwan government but not both because a single unify country can't have two governments.
 

supersnoop

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About this did any Chinese Canadian who served in Afghanistan or any other deployments will they be angry about this?
Back when I was around (during the Afghanistan times) Taiwan wasn’t even on anyone’s radar, so not sure. That being said, I don’t know anyone who wants to take on China. In fact, I had a classmate who ended up in the RCAF who says one of his fellow officers is Chinese and “always says China is the best”
 

drowingfish

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The delusion is common to all western countries, look at this guy who advocates for poking the PRC over Taiwan
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Also advocating for military readiness


With a rational mind, this strategy is just batsh*t crazy. In order to maintain peace, do all the things that will anger the other side. This guy probably also advocates driving the nicest car possible with multiple Rolexes on your wrist through bad neighborhoods to avoid being a victim of crime.

My friend who only recently left the CF reserves, I used to laughingly call him "Future Canadian military liaison to President Vegetable English".
I think Canadian military leaders know better than anyone that Canada is simply not a factor in a conflict with China or Russia.
 
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